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pbahra writes "The smart money was right. Nokia has jumped into bed with Microsoft and will produce phones running Windows Phone 7. The cynics would say that, here, we have two lumbering dinosaurs of the technology world clinging to each other hoping that the other gives them a future. Optimists would point to two companies that need each other, both bringing vital components to the alliance. The big winner is Microsoft. Windows Phone 7, while reasonably well received by commentators, has not set the world on fire. An alliance with Nokia gives it access to the world's largest phone maker and its huge mindshare — in many developing nations a mobile phone is known as a Nokia. The biggest loser is MeeGo, the ugly, unloved step-child of operating systems." Nokia wrote to developers, "Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same."
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  • by Pecisk (688001) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:11AM (#35172728)

    Enough said.

    • Bye bye Nokia...
    • by quantumphaze (1245466) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:33AM (#35173008)

      With the IOS concentration camp, Android bootloader lockdown, and Windows Phone 7 copying everything that we hated about IOS it looks like a bleak future for anyone who wants to do cool stuff with their phone beyond the simple apps you get on the common platforms. If Nokia abandons MeeGo with this deal then any hope we have of being able to get new phones with the same freedom as the N900 will be fed to the meat grinder.

      Looks like I will have to take great care of my N900. It's the first and last of it's kind.

      • by bemymonkey (1244086) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:39AM (#35173064)

        The Android bootloader lockdown? What? Just stop buying Motorola devices and all will be fine... you've still got HTC and Samsung building decent phones with completely open bootloaders.

        • But for how long? The N900 activley encouraged users to hack around. There was a fucking xterm in the main menu. With Android you have to first research if the handset has an active community that provide modded images if you want all the fun.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Merk42 (1906718)
            As long as there are Nexus phones, and considering those are the phones Google itself uses, I don't see those going away any time soon.
        • by MrHanky (141717)

          Avoid Sony Ericsson as well. I like their hardware, but not the way they treat their customers.

      • by PseudonymousBraveguy (1857734) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:44AM (#35173120)

        According to the German Spiegel [spiegel.de], Alberto Torres [nokia.com] (responsible board member for MeeGo) just left the board. So yeah, MeeGo is basically left for dead.

        • It's really depressing. I was looking forward to using a MeeGo handset in a few years once my N900 would start getting old. Please let there be another handset manufacturer who will take up MeeGo or a similar full Linux OS, else my N900 will be the last phone I'll ever have.

          • by knewter (62953)

            Isn't webos essentially 'full linux'? My friends that had webos certainly used xterms on them, and afaik it's very hackable - having said that, didn't know many with it and never played with it myself. Looking at getting one of the hp webos tablets, since they still aren't selling the wetab here.

            • I completely forgot about WebOS. Though I haven't seen it for myself yet, all I have read about it is that it's more Linux geek friendly than Android. Perhaps there is hope, let's wait and see.

          • by rwa2 (4391) *

            Pretty sad for the business end of things.

            I think you'll be happy with an Android device, though... they are really hacker friendly for the following reasons:

            * Manufacturers don't release updates for older phones forcing some planned obsolescence : This is actually a big *win* for hackers, because then they can then buy these phones for *cheap* from the lusers upgrading their handsets to get the latest OS, and then install the current CyanogenMOD to get the whole shebang. I've picked up all three of my And

        • by frisket (149522)
          No loss. Nokia screwed it up with the N800 (not a phone) and Maemo by failing to understand that it was a pocket computer, not a "tablet". Their complete lack of comprehension here meant that when they came to make the N900 they picked the wrong form factor and failed dismally to provide a decent suite of built-in apps, despite having made the same mistake with the N800. Plus the N900 was grossly overpriced for what it was. I loved my N800, but I gave up on Nokia when Androids became available. It's disast
      • by TiberiusMonkey (1603977) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:45AM (#35173124)
        Apart from Google selling root friendly Android phones, as well as some small independent handset makers selling root friendly Android phones, HTC selling phones that can be rooted with a mouse click and the only actual handset maker to back up your claim of locking down the bootloader that I know of is Motorolla. Also Microsoft is embracing the hacker community over Windows 7 phone thus far. So yeah, other than all those phones.
        • by Luckyo (1726890) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:48AM (#35173148)

          I think we all know what "microsoft embrace" is followed by.

        • by Microlith (54737) on Friday February 11, 2011 @12:49PM (#35175932)

          The problem with Android, IMO, is that the entire ecosystem composing it and much of what surrounds it is entirely insular, and to no great benefit.

          It shares no common libraries or interfaces with what you find in most Linux distributions. It uses a unique libc that no other distribution uses. It uses a file system layout that is not found anywhere else. Its GUI rendering subsystem is completely unique and incompatible with all others.

          The end result is that changes to Android stay within the Android system and do not benefit open source projects outside of it. And projects outside of it require heavy rewrites to work, at all, on Android. Not to mention that Android has no real repository type system, so you're left trading .apk files and latching on to the market, which is only available on the default builds of some devices and not at all on others.

          Maemo was developed with that compatibility in mind, and is a large part of the reason I bought it. It was most of what the OpenMoko Freerunner tried to be, and MeeGo only improved the openness aspect of it. MeeGo allowed mobile devices to retain continuity with the rest of the open source ecosystem you find in most desktop Linux systems, thus changes and improvements to both ends benefits everyone. In addition, it removed the non-device-specific closed bits and created a platform independent of any one handset vendor.

          Android leaves you a second (or more likely, third) class citizen in this effort, as the AOSP does not, last I checked, flow upstream into the Android core and the AOSP only receives the latest changes to Android after it's been delivered to device manufacturers (see Honeycomb and Motorola.)

          So this is very much a Microsoft victory against Open Source, if not Free Software, projects in the mobile space. And Android is not a way forward that is very fair to end users and non-corporate developers.

          • by s73v3r (963317)

            And projects outside of it require heavy rewrites to work, at all, on Android.

            They would require this anyway. You don't want desktop apps running as-is on a primarily touchscreen device. It is shit, as the mode of interaction is completely different between a touchscreen and a keyboard/mouse combo. Its the same reason why Windows based tablets were never popular.

    • Indeed.

      Attn: Nokia:

      Was nice knowing you
    • You have no inkling of how powerful this makes the combined companies. It basically takes Microsoft's WM7 which is pretty polished, and pairs it with a dedicated hardware maker that has a built in global reach and relationships with a ton of carriers.

      Furthermore, those relationships mean WM7 can get carrier billing for apps ad in-app purchases, world wide, almost instantly due to agreements in place - Apple can get by without them because so many people have iTunes account, but any other application provid

  • That new CEO... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mvdwege (243851) <mvdwege@mail.com> on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:13AM (#35172754) Homepage Journal

    Stephen Elop must be the best mole since Kim Philby.

    After Sendo en Palm yet another mobile vendor commits suicide-by-Microsoft. But this is the biggest yet.

    I really liked Nokia devices, but my E71 is probably going to be my last one.

    Mart

    • by darjen (879890)

      I used an e71 for a while and Nokia's hardware is second to none. They still make the best keyboards you can get on a phone. I wish my Droid's keyboard was made by them. I might actually be interested in buying a Nokia that was running something other than Symbian.

    • Re:That new CEO... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by vegiVamp (518171) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:24AM (#35172890) Homepage

      Mole ? He worked for MS up to september. That's not MS planting a mole, that's Nokia dropping pants and bending over.

      I've also been a Nokia guy up until now; currently got an N97. Wonderful toy even with Symbian being a bit of a bugger at times; but I'll be keeping a very sharp eye on where this is going.

    • by horza (87255)

      I also love my Nokia E71, and was holding out for a Meego handset. I guess I will have to give up and join the Android masses. Shame to see Nokia die, but I can't see Win7 phones taking off. I guess the next best thing is going to be the Samsung Galaxy S Pro, with the slide-out keyboard.

      Phillip.

    • by Znork (31774)
      Yep, it's another Rick Belluzzo. Like all deals between someone and Microsoft it's probably a good deal for Microsoft. Just not a good deal for Nokia, which will most likely following the footsteps of SGI.
  • Shocking (Score:5, Informative)

    by ThoughtMonster (1602047) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:14AM (#35172766) Homepage

    This [blogs.com] is a good read on the whole matter. Writing's a bit crude in some parts but raises some good points.

    These charts also illustrate the point. Nokia is alienating both its development community and its customers. Qt is put on the sidelines. Who's going to develop for a dying platform? A lot of people I know buy Symbian because of the generally familiar UI, which is similar to the Series 40 phones. Windows Phone is radically different.

    Ugh.

    • by j_l_cgull (129101)
      It is shocking that Nokia did not know about the Osbourne effect - which perhaps held back the Maemo/MeeGoo penetration even among geek circles. While this will give MS an entry in the emerging markets where Nokia is the leader, I cannot comprehend how this will influence a potential smartphone customer.

      If the rumored iPhone Nano is true and the upcoming low cost Android phones will make it that much harder for this Nokia/WP7 combination to make meaningful dent in the marketshare - perhaps for MS, compa
      • Re:Shocking (Score:4, Informative)

        by ThoughtMonster (1602047) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:47AM (#35173144) Homepage

        This whole thing is even more crazy if you take in account that Nokia shelled out more than $400 million for two assets (Symbian and Qt/Trolltech) which are now pushed into irrelevance. Nokia even open-sourced the entire Symbian operating system under the EPL, a huge move unlike what has been done by any company, only to dissolve the Symbian foundation after Mr. Elop joined the company.

        What's more, Symbian and Windows phone are not perfect replacements. As some other posters have noted, the hardware requirements for Windows Phone are egregiously high, whilst Symbian is known to be frugal with hardware requirements because it was built from the ground-up to be an operating system for low-power devices. The user-interfaces are radically different.

        The main issue with Symbian is that it was hard to develop for. This was supposed to be resolved with Qt, but now what? Nobody will develop for a platform that's going to eventually die.

        • by tibit (1762298) on Friday February 11, 2011 @11:17AM (#35174428)

          Qt desperately needs to be spun off into its own company. It's a great cross-platform framework without any clear contender. I develop several applications at work using Qt and there is no alternative. I need my stuff to run on OS X and Windows, and I'm using pretty much all that Qt gives, at least when it comes to the graphics scene framework and model/view system. The oft-repeated alternatives of GTK and wxWindows just aren't anywhere near where I'd need them to be.

          We used to pay for Qt, but once Nokia took over we figured: why feed the beast? As soon as Qt would be spun-off, we'd begin paying again for two commercial licenses...

    • Re:Shocking (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gbjbaanb (229885) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:46AM (#35173134)

      The open letter [nokia.com] from CEO to everyone has a *lot* of comments. I can paraphrase for you in case you don't want to read them:

      "WTF? Goodbye Nokia".

      Its a great pity all round. Microsoft *still* won't sell any more phones, Nokia will just destroy itself. Shares down 8% today and I'm sure will fall further.

  • Sweet! Does this mean Nokia will start bundling Microsoft's NIBBLES.BAS with handsets instead of their snake game?

  • Not so Qt (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Skuto (171945) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:21AM (#35172850) Homepage

    Nokia bought Qt not so long ago, presumably because they were aiming for embedded Linux based devices and Qt is one of the best toolkits for that. Now that they are in bed with Microsoft, getting a great Linux/crossplatform GUI toolkit hardly can be a priority any more, so it makes a lot less sense to spend money on developing Qt. Particularly as unlike Trolltech, they were focussing on making it as popular as possible even at the expense of the commercial version (GPL->LGPL license change).

    So now Qt just became an irrelevant, money losing division, didn't it?

    Or do they plan to keep Qt but just use Windows as the underlying OS? I can't believe MS will be entirely happy with that, having .NET as competition and all...

    • by S.O.B. (136083)

      Expect a fork of Qt as Nokia slowly drains resources away from it.

    • by guidryp (702488)

      QT will not be used for Window Phone development. It was in one of the many links at Engadget.

    • They've already announced that Qt will not be available for WP7.. It seems to me that they are essentially dumping Qt, so question is what the Trolls will do now? Start up Trolltech again?

    • QT was a profitable company with a large number of employees BEFORE Nokia bought it.

      Not everyone realizes - QT is licensed by companies not just to develop applications that run on both Windows and UNIX, but also Windows and Mac OS. This is where they make a lot of money.

      QT is not going anywhere, it has a huge install base. If anything it would be sold by Nokia or spun-off into it's own company again.

      • by Skuto (171945)

        QT was a profitable company with a large number of employees BEFORE Nokia bought it.

        Lehmann Brothers was a profitable company with a large number of employees before...

        Not everyone realizes - QT is licensed by companies not just to develop applications that run on both Windows and UNIX, but also Windows and Mac OS. This is where they make a lot of money.

        Unfortunately, Nokia upset that significantly by relicensing from the GPL to the LGPL. I haven't seen the exact financials, but logically this has to reduce the revenue from selling commercial versions, as you just removed the most important reason to get a commercial license. I got one for Qt 3.x but there has been no reason to get a new one for Qt 4.5+

        The question is if the remainder (consulting, ports-for-hire, ...) is en

  • by PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:22AM (#35172866)

    "Two's company, three's a crowd." Supporting three platforms requires a lot of resource. So one of the old ones will be facing cutbacks, if not being kicked entirely. Now, let's see "MeGoo" -> "Me Go". Oh, what a giveaway.

    It's really too bad. I have a Nokia N800, which I love, and was really looking forward to buying a N900. I decided to wait and see how the reviews were. Then came the Maemo -> MeGoo announcement and the departure of Ari Jaaksi, and that really unsettled me. I really liked Maemo. Getting Intel on board was bound to lead to conflicts in direction, which would slow down development.

    So now, I will wait still longer to see how things with MeGoo move along. And I am not buying a Nokia with Windows 7. So it's probably time to start looking at Andriod. Way to blow it, Nokia.

  • My final Nokia (Score:3, Interesting)

    by PARENA (413947) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:23AM (#35172870) Homepage

    I've always been a big Nokia fan. I'm currently using my 6th or 7th one since 1999. Stirdy, trustworthy devices (well, except for one clam type phone, but could be blamed on my abuse of it). The one I have now (E51) is the 'smartest' phone I have, but it will also be my final Nokia. Would have loved to see them jump to Android, but they chose this. No, I can't put this down with facts or figures, it's just a feeling: it will not help Nokia remain the biggest phone manufacturer and I believe their market share will decline more and more. Too little, too late, this move. Such a shame, as the N8 (Symbian) is such a gorgeous device (but seriously, no Ogg support?) and I really love many of their phone designs. From fun to casual to business. Thanks for 12 years of fun, Nokia, but this is one customer less. :(

  • Sell sell sell (Score:4, Insightful)

    by duncanFrance (140184) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:23AM (#35172876)

    Any shares you have in Nokia.

    They put an ex-Microsoftie in charge of a consumer electronics company. I'd laugh if it wasn't such a tragedy.

    QT will be taken out and shot as soon as possible. Here's how it will happen: Microsoft will offer Nokia a Business Development Agreement which lets Nokia get discounts off the price they pay for operating system licences. The discounts will be related to Nokia doing one of a number of 'entirely voluntary' (hence not illegally coerced) things. Things like enhancing QT in some way to make it compatible with some pointless and unused feature of Windows PhoneOS. After a few of these it will be cheaper to just kill QT.

    Then KDE will be screwed.

    Any guesses how long Symbian will last?

    • by Tapewolf (1639955)

      QT will be taken out and shot as soon as possible. ... Things like enhancing QT in some way to make it compatible with some pointless and unused feature of Windows PhoneOS. After a few of these it will be cheaper to just kill QT.

      Then KDE will be screwed.

      It will be messy, yes. But this happened before with Xfree86->Xorg, it's happening now with OpenOffice.org->LibreOffice and if QT shows any signs of sickness it's pretty certain that will be forked too, if only by the KDE folks.

      FWIW I don't see QT ever being compatible with WP7, since you can only develop in Silverlight for that or at a pinch, C#. Not even managed C++...

    • Re:Sell sell sell (Score:5, Informative)

      by GigaplexNZ (1233886) on Friday February 11, 2011 @10:40AM (#35173868)

      Then KDE will be screwed.

      Nope [kde.org].

  • Nokia has seen Apple and Google jump in on the high-end, taking almost all of the high-profit margin of the market. On the low-end they're going to be increasingly attacked by Chinese firms pumping out phones that are good enough to use, and cheaper than Nokia can make them. They can only try and regain some market share from Google/Apple and there is no way Symbian was ever going to do that. It's a dead OS in terms of mindshare. I think the hardware looks great (The new E9 is stunning) but they need to cha

  • I really liked the N900, but from the looks of it that may not be going anywhere anymore.

    So, what's a good Android phone? I'd like one as open as possible, with good hardware specs and a hardware keyboard.

    • by Pecisk (688001)

      Google Nexus S, developed by Samsung? I have heard lot of good things about it.

      Android is quite open - yes, phone vendors and Google still ship numbers of closed apps with standard platform, but rest of it is documented and open sourced quite nicely. Also I usually buy phones not from mobile networks, so I avoid all lockdowns and such stuff.

      I have HTC Wildfire, and it is niffy, good looking thing. I had reserved thoughts about Android before but now I think Google knows how to do that.

      Still looking forward

    • by BESTouff (531293)
      I think I'll stay with my N900 for a while yet. It works very well for my uses, it starts getting community updates. Maybe I'll try NITDroid when it's working a bit more. Afterwards, well ... how about a GTA04 ? Or some kind of android phone if one appears to be open enough.
      • by vadim_t (324782)

        Probably not switching just yet, unless I happen to break it soon. But I figure it's time to start looking at what else is out there.

        I think I'll wait to see if that MeeGo device works out. It sounds like support for it within Nokia won't be great, but if it works well enough and gets a community it could be worth getting anyway.

    • by gbjbaanb (229885)

      The best one according to PCPro's megatest of phones is the HTC Desire. They do a version of it with a slide-out keyboard called the Desire Z [htc.com]

      the keyboard is very very good, we have them on our (windows 6.5) phones and although everyone hates the OS, they like the keyboards a lot.

  • by eldavojohn (898314) * <eldavojohn@nOspAM.gmail.com> on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:25AM (#35172902) Journal

    An alliance with Nokia gives it access to the world's largest phone maker and its huge mindshare — in many developing nations a mobile phone is known as a Nokia.

    I was a little confused by this quote as the minimum requirements for Windows Phone 7 far exceed [wikipedia.org] the vast majority of those developing nation cellphones. I believe those are mostly the candy bar cell phones or "dumbphones." I was under the impression that developing nations had a vast population of users who weren't in the market for smartphones. That might be changing but I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the current models Nokia enjoys widespread distribution hinge on a trim microkernel operating system with little to no system requirements and I'm unaware of a version of Windows Phone 7 that satisfies these hardware constraints. Simply put, it's going to be a long time before Microsoft's WP7 dominates the developing nations as the de facto operating system. And good luck piling those licensing rights of WP7 on top of the cost of the phone to people who struggle to find potable water!

    • Don't kid yourself about developing nations. I live in one. We have one of the most sophisticated cell phone networks in the world. Almost everyone here has a cell phone because landlines are unfordable for the majority of our citizens. Most phones here can at least run Java. The social network of choice here is called Mxit has been developed using Java for mobiles. Its cheap to communicate via Mxit (much cheaper than SMS) so a large portion of our nation does. Symbian will probably end up dominating this market segment for Nokia, while their smartphone segment runs Windows 7 for the meantime until they find a better strategy.
    • by anandrajan (86137)
      I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia maintains legacy dumbphone support (on Symbian) for a while until the developing nations can be switched to smartphones (or when low end smartphones can run Windows Mobile 7 which should happen in a few years). On the other hand, I think MeeGo on smartphones is cooked since Microsoft is no Amigo (when it comes to linux + Qt). As others have speculated, this is very bad news for the Trolls since they will probably be turned into zombies. I would not be surprised to see Intel
  • I was planning on buying the first MeeGo device when it eventually came to market, but now that WP7 is the "primary OS" for smartphones, it doesn't feel as if they're going to invest the resources they needs to pull it off properly, if at all...

    Even worse, they're essentially abandoning Qt. They've announced that there will be no Qt support on their WP7 devices. They had a great plan to use Qt for both MeeGo and Symbian devices, allowing cross-platform application development. It really was a great strategy

    • Microsoft isn't allowing any native programming on Windows Phone 7 right now, so Nokia couldn't port it over even if it was a good fit (it's not) and they wanted to.

      The only way I could see Microsoft caving on this is for game developers -- Microsoft is going to feel a sting when high-end game engines run across Android and iPhone but leave WP7 in the dust. I have a feeling they know this, too, because all the WP7 devices out right now have unimpressive 2 year old GPUs in them.

      • Microsoft isn't allowing any native programming on Windows Phone 7 right now, so Nokia couldn't port it over even if it was a good fit (it's not) and they wanted to.

        What Microsoft let the world in general do, and what they let their new mobile phone partner do are two different things.

        But Nokia have already said that Qt isn't going to be a platform for WP7, so opinions aren't needed here. Qt is now as legacy as Symbian and Meego from Nokia's point of view.

  • Having uses Nokia phone for at least the last 15 years my N95 will be the LAST Nokia

    I cant believe people can be so stupid!
    • by N1AK (864906)
      The fact you are using a phone released 4 years ago shows that you're neither the market Nokia is looking for, and that they've already lost.

      Most Apple and Android users will have gone through 2-3 handsets since 2007. If Nokia hasn't been able to motivate its users to upgrade it's hardly shocking that they are in a hole.
      • by horza (87255)

        Depends what country you are in. Here in France most people have to get 24 month contracts to make the phone affordable, and so are unlikely to change phone every single year like the population you apparently live in. I deliberately pay 2x the price for my handset in exchange for a 1 year contract, but I am in the minority here.

        Phillip.

  • by BlackCreek (1004083) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:32AM (#35173000)

    While they make awesome hardware Nokia has got to get their act together wrt getting R & D to deliver: they spend almost 3 times as its peers [engadget.com]

  • "Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices"

    Yes, but they also say this:

    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/02/nokiawebcast-4.pdf-page-30-of-38.jpg [blogcdn.com]
    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/02/nokiawebcast-4.pdf-page-32-of-38.jpg [blogcdn.com]

  • You can produce the same effect by making a last-minute switch to a new OS after carefully stabilizing and making an OS pefectly matched to your needs and hardware for several years. It will not be faster to use the new OS and if you main positive reputation is "It just works" then you can only loose more.

    Palm crawled back to their original idea after getting distracted on the windows path and nearly died. The just wasted energy, confused the community and lost more time

    I am really sad to see that history r

  • by ctid (449118) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:38AM (#35173054) Homepage
  • Nail in the coffin (Score:3, Insightful)

    by muzicman (1148101) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:38AM (#35173062)

    I guess that the N900 is the last Nokia that I will ever own.

    Out of the choices of operating systems to go for, why on earth did they choose Windows over Android? What were they thinking? They would have hammered the iPhone in a year or two if they had chosen Android.

    They really need their heads examining.

    Glad I don't have shares in Nokia.

  • by hmmm (115599)

    I loved Nokia, they worked hard to make good quality phones with advanced features. I'd reluctantly switched to iPhone about 3 years ago as Nokia fell behind on the Smartphone race, but I never loved Apple and was ready to make the move when a good competitor arrived. Microsoft are not ready for the new era, they are the Mubaraks of the IT world. Nokia is finished, it might sell a few million phones but will never again excite consumers or enthuse developers - I feel really really sad & sorry for enthus

  • by guidryp (702488) on Friday February 11, 2011 @09:49AM (#35173156)

    Elop will certainly go down as a Hero for Microsoft, he managed to give Microsoft everything it would want from a Nokia Purchase, but without spending a dime.

    No small coincidence that he is a former Microsoftie.

  • There is no way they can compete against Chinese OEM manufacturers - they will eat their lunch.
    Throw away current decent dev tools for new ones never makes sense
    This seems like an all out gamble that they can take on RIM in the corporate market with MS's backing
    They can't completely dump Symbian and Meego will continue without them.

  • Because if you rush, you can probably stock up on N900s. If you get, oh say, 5 they should last you for a while until the smart company makes a true power phone again that puts the OS in the hands of the user.
  • "Nokia wrote to developers, "Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same.""

    Meanwhile... http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/02/nokiawebcast-4.pdf-page-32-of-38.jpg [blogcdn.com]

    Symbian, QT, are dead to Nokia.

    I wonder what will happen to KDE too. I mean, they rely on Nokia to spit out QT releases, I doubt they can handl

  • by Mr_Silver (213637) on Friday February 11, 2011 @11:01AM (#35174170)

    This article [asymco.com] gives a very good overview of Microsoft's previous strategic partners and how well each one of them ended.

    (it's currently missing Sendo and Ericsson although the author has indicated that he'll update it to include them soon)

    Personally I think it would be a good thing to have iOS, Android, WebOS and Windows Phone thriving in the marketplace as it means that each one will be forced to innovate to stay relevant - which can only be a good thing for the consumer.

    However on the basis of Microsoft's past performance, I wish Nokia the very best of luck as they are going to need a lot of it.

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