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Does Windows Phone 7 Have a Data Transmission Bug? 202

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the that's-a-lotta-bits dept.
blarkon writes "Microsoft commentator and Windows Phone 7 Expert Paul Thurrott has reported a serious bug that indicates Windows Phone 7 is uploading up to 50 MB of unidentified data every day. The phone operating system apparently ignores Wi-Fi connections for sending this data, leading some Windows Phone 7 owners hitting their 2 GB plan data limit while doing little more than checking email and social networking sites. Thurrott has written a book on Windows Phone 7 and is unlikely to be making such a claim unless it has some substance. At the moment no one knows what this data contains or where it is going, though Thurrott suspects it may be related to the Windows Phone Marketplace."
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Does Windows Phone 7 Have a Data Transmission Bug?

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  • by yincrash (854885) on Monday January 03, 2011 @12:52PM (#34744724)
    in some countries, ISPs do actually do this.
  • What's so different? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jerry (6400) on Monday January 03, 2011 @12:54PM (#34744758)

    All of the Winddows OS's have been sending "demographic" data back to Redmond on a regular basis for years. This was throughly documented on the old F**KMicrosoft.com website.

  • Probably not. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 03, 2011 @01:02PM (#34744826)

    I've had the Samsung Focus since mid-November. I use it heavily for email, browsing, and even the occasional Netflix stream of a TV show. I rarely enable WiFi. I just pulled up my usage on AT&T's website, and I'm averaging about 1GB/month.

    Count me as a "No" datapoint in response to Paul Thurrott. Next question, please.

  • by MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) on Monday January 03, 2011 @01:11PM (#34744904)

    imagine if you couldn't use your phone because the network was always full of other people's traffic?

    Imagine people doing that because the phone company advertised that's what you could use it for.

    There's a reason for cost-effective plans, and I'm sure the providers will increase the caps over time as they add more capacity...

    Hahaha!

  • by Jerry (6400) on Monday January 03, 2011 @03:11PM (#34746194)

    The site has been offline for two years, but the Internet Archive has most of it is HERE [archive.org].

    Read it and weep. Nothing will be done because most Windows users, like you, prefer to not believe that they are being spied on, or that former Microsoft employee James Plamondon trained "Technical Evangelists" who astroturf websites making fun of such claims.

    You should read James Plamondon's mea culpa [live.com] concerning his training of PAID "Technical Evangelists" to do the "Slog", the "Stuffed Panel", Astroturf congress and various websites with pro Microsoft and/or anti-Apple or Linux lies, etc...

    Plamondon had to do a mea culpa because his activity was exposed in the Combs vs Microsoft lawsuit where the training documents he wrote were released to the public. As an example of how TE's work, read exerpts from Plamondon's training manual for the phrase "stacked panel", "The Slog", and other techniques here [groklaw.net].

    When Joe Barr wrote SLIME in 1994, he didn't know about the TE's Microsoft had unleashed on the world, but he described them to a tea:
    http://slated.org/more_microsoft_dirty_tricks_history [slated.org]

    Internet Achive has the "SLIME" article here [archive.org].

    A more complete, but not exhaustive list of dirty tricks by Microsoft are listed here:
    http://www.grokdoc.net/index.php/Dirty_Tricks_history [grokdoc.net]

  • by icebike (68054) on Monday January 03, 2011 @03:17PM (#34746252)

    No, you are wrong. It is NOT a matter of Physics. I

    I stopped reading right there.

    Because it is most certainly a matter of Physics.

    There is a maximum number of handsets a given tower can handle with its assigned spectrum. There is a maximum tower density before they interfere with each other. There is a maximum number of bits [wikipedia.org] you can transfer over a given frequency in a given time frame.

    And these maximums are routinely being hit today in many places. Just about any place with an event (ball game, emergency), near most high schools, and entire cities with restrictive NIMBY tower permitting.

    You simply can not continuously add bandwidth demand to the last mile of a cellular network.

  • Cox sued... BellSouth sued... then several "concerned citizens completely and totally unconnected with Cox or BellSouth, we promise, honest!" sued, as well. I didn't recall them pointing to any specific law, though, just general angst over the whole thing...

    The sad thing is I was working in the local government at the time and I know for a fact that the Fiber-to-Home initiative was only started AFTER the local government went to Cox and BellSouth and tried to work out a deal for either one of them to deliver fiber service. Only after they both laughed the government out of their offices did LUS pursue delivering it by itself.

    And yeah, that's one of the things that makes me kick myself for leaving Lafayette as well. Especially since the neighborhood my apartment was in was picked as the first for fiber rollout about three months AFTER I left...

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