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Why Google Isn't Pushing Android For Tablets 224

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Brad Linder of Liliputing posted an interesting analysis today about Google's reluctance to endorse Android for tablets. Linder argues that while there may be legitimate concern that Android just isn't polished enough for devices without phone access (because some apps need it), it would be smart for Google to segregate the apps themselves, so users can simply know which apps will work on Wi-Fi-only tablets. But from Google's perspective, he observes, "pushing a version of Android that isn't exclusively for phones could be all it takes for Chrome OS to be dead on arrival."
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Why Google Isn't Pushing Android For Tablets

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  • Too early to tell (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Superken7 (893292) on Friday September 10 2010, @07:54PM (#33541014) Journal

    I don't think this is the case considering Motorola is expected to launch a tablet-ready android tablet this year. (And so is Acer too, according to rumors)

    ChromeOS will probably ship on tablets AND on netbooks, while Android will probably only ship on tablets. (at least officially, since there are already some netbooks running android)

    I don't think Google will want to let everyone down releasing non-optimized android versions for tablets, which would only genererate fragmentation (that magical word again) as far as tablet-specific implementation is concerned.

    Also, why wait even more when their competition (Apple) is already singing the infamous "Its printing money!" song?

    I expect them to release a tablet-friendly Android version this year so everyone can start working on top of that new "standard". (i.e. they want to set the standard so Android doesn't end up having 100 tablet implementations)
    Who knows if that will be Gingerbread or Honeycomb...

  • by dlenmn (145080) on Friday September 10 2010, @08:12PM (#33541148) Homepage

    As TFA explains:

    Google Chrome OS, which is basically an OS built around a web browser. Instead of downloaded apps, it will run web apps, although we expect there to be some offline caching capabilities which should let you do things like read eBooks or watch videos even when an internet connection isn’t handy.

    I agree with the author that this is a bad idea:

    Don’t forget, when Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone, it didn’t have native apps either. He insisted that the development platform for the iPhone was the web, and the phone was designed primarily to run web apps. Today, there are over 250,000 native apps available in the App Store because, let’s face it, web apps just aren’t always going to do the job.

    I don't know how much info is in the wild about Chrome OS, so maybe it'll have some wiz bang features that will rule, but I doubt it. Having two operating systems where one will certainly do just doesn't sound like a good idea -- especially when one is out, the other isn't, and the unreleased one is built around a questionable concept.

  • by catbutt (469582) on Friday September 10 2010, @08:13PM (#33541152)
    I would consider a Chrome OS that runs Android apps to be basically a merger of the two. At least it is a merger from the point of view of being a platform.
  • Jettison ChromeOS (Score:5, Insightful)

    by NitroWolf (72977) on Friday September 10 2010, @08:18PM (#33541200) Homepage

    Whether or not ChromeOS is better than Android at this point is largely academic. Android is here, now and (arguably) ready for mass consumption. ChomeOS isn't. It's a shame, and it would suck to jettison all of that work put into ChromeOS, but it's just too late to the party at this point. People are already packing up and heading out to the retail store with Android and diluting the development of Android to push ChromeOS out to market a day late and dollar short does a disservice to both platforms.

    They need to retool their Chrome developers to start making Android more tablet friendly and rolling the most positive features of Chrome into Android.

    The netbook market is largely static and is likely to self implode or at the very least be rolled into the ultralight laptop market. I mean, really the current generation of Netbooks are really just small laptops; calling them netbooks is paying lip service to the netbook form factor only - a 12" screen really isn't a netbook anymore and people have largely figured out that anything smaller really isn't useful for much in laptop form - but it is in tablet form. So the netbook market is all but gone as separate entity. Where does that leave ChromeOS? Pretty much nowhere. It has no real platform and it is too late to the party to do much of anything.

    Meh... I'd really like to see it rolled into Android, that's really the smartest move at this point.

  • Re:Makes sense. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ADRA (37398) on Friday September 10 2010, @08:19PM (#33541212)

    pardon? This from the guys that literally double the dimensions of the iPhone's apps just to run on the tablet? This from the guys that didn't and still don't multi-task on these devices? Designed for Tablet computing? What are you smoking?

    Android isn't designed for Tablet either to be fair. Both platforms had a very small profile and screen requirement. IOS's GUI core was enhanced to include another GUI profile target. There's nothing specifically brilliant about IOS that makes it a tablet user's wet dream besides the fact that it already had touch as its primary interface (admittedly this is one of the primary reasons that previous tablet computing initiatives died out quickly).

  • Re:Horseshit (Score:4, Insightful)

    by TooMuchToDo (882796) on Friday September 10 2010, @08:21PM (#33541218)

    This. The only apps that don't work with the cellular connection off are those that rely on A-GPS, and they can always use the device's GPS chipset instead.

  • Re:they all suck (Score:4, Insightful)

    by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Friday September 10 2010, @08:22PM (#33541238)

    Now that we have an MS fuckwit running Nokia, I don't really care what runs on phones or tablets. The available choices all require giving up my right to make choices, period. The whole smartphone tablet space really really fucking sucks.

    Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's - but I think it's pretty obvious most people couldn't care less about, as you call it, "giving up my right to make choices". Thing is, most people don't seem to see anything problematic about Apple's walled garden or with any limitations Google might put on their marketplace. They just care that it's easy to grab the Facebook app.

  • Wait... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by wonkavader (605434) on Friday September 10 2010, @10:20PM (#33541798)

    Isn't Chrome OS already dead on arrival?

  • by rickb928 (945187) on Saturday September 11 2010, @12:10AM (#33542266) Homepage Journal

    Unless your Android app is specific to some telephone thing, like SMS or a dialer, that app is going to be just fine on a tablet without phone features or even service. WiFi will do.

    Really, let's go down the list of apps on my Android phone:

    The Google Stuff: Calendar, Calculator, Amazon MP3, Camera, Contacts, Email, Gmail, Clock, Gallery, Google Search, Maps, Latitude, News & Weather, Navigator, Places, Talk, YouTube. None of these need phone service, they are happy with WiFi or nothing at all.

    Android Market likes to have your SIM I think to validate ya. OK, ONE.
    Messaging, of course, likes SMS. That's TWO.
    Phone, obviously, THREE.
    Oh darn, Mobile Backup. Oh, FOUR.

    Other Apps: AppMonster, Terminal, World, AK Notepad, Astro Player, Barcode Scanner, AndroZip, Barcode Scanner, Bonsai Blast, Browser, Classic Tetris, Craigslist, CraigsNotifier, eBay, Facebook, GPS Status, Music, Pandora, SetCPU, Superuser, Twitter, WiFi Analyzer, World.

    None of these need phone anything. WiFi will do where needed.

    Out of 44 apps on my phone (not counting some very, very obviously non-phone-dependent one I haven't listed), only 4 need or just use phone service.

    Reality check. The many Android apps that want phone permissions just want them to screw with your contacts or to check the phone state. Woop.

    It's not at ALL about Android needing a phone. It's about Android being more suited to small screens and small machines (minimal RAM and lesser CPUS), and Chrome pointed directly at the desktop and netbook/notebook markets. More exactly, pointed directly at Microsoft.

    Fracturing a market with Android and Chrome competing for share doesn't work for Google, so they will try to avoid it. It's just that Chrome is not as ready as Android is, and Android will have to keep itself lean to be workable on smartphones.

    Of course, ARM is working on giving smartphones the power that netbooks have, and Intel is growing the Atom line up and the Duo line down to crush AMD's hopes in emerging markets.

    It's actually not a bad strategy to be competing with yourself. IBM gave that a go in the 80s and 90s.

  • by pspahn (1175617) on Saturday September 11 2010, @12:29AM (#33542340)

    Holy cow! Someone gets it!!

    If Android users already have an Android phone (and a monthly bill to go along with it) what sense would it make from a consumer standpoint to have an additional monthly bill for an ancillary device?

    Tether the damn tablet to another connection and be done with it. It's not difficult.

  • by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@[ ]dless.com ['min' in gap]> on Saturday September 11 2010, @12:43AM (#33542404) Journal

    November is very definitely Winter...Steve needs to learn his Irish Calendar before making promises that will be listened to Worldwide

    Hi, southern hemisphere here. We'd like a word about your concept of "worldwide"...

  • Re:Well... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Patch86 (1465427) on Saturday September 11 2010, @03:53AM (#33543074)

    Well one of the points is that, by having your computer run only a single programme (with 99% of everything else being a webservice), it should be able to run very smoothly on low-powered devices.

    Not that I really agree with this. The big resource hogs these days are HD video, games and picture editing- none of which are helped much by running over a network.

    Not only that, but it feels like it has missed the boat. Android is already taking care of the pocket-computing (these days- smartphone) niche, and the netbook market has already reached a sort of equilibrium with Windows and Linux versions covering all bases. If ChromeOS had launched 2 years ago it could have stood a chance of establishing itself as a market player. Now though?

  • Re:Just sayin' (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mgblst (80109) on Saturday September 11 2010, @07:03AM (#33543758) Homepage

    Don't forget your anti-virus and spamware programs.

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