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Microsoft Quickly Revises "Sexting" Ad For Kin Phone 298

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theodp writes "Microsoft's Kin mobile phone project came under fire as Consumer Reports and others pointed out that a promotional video looked like an inappropriate endorsement of 'sexting,' prompting a quick edit and an apologetic tweet. 'The video,' observed Consumer Reports, 'includes a downright creepy sequence [beginning around 0:33] in which a young man is shown putting a Kin under his shirt and apparently snapping a picture of one of his naked breasts. The breast is then shown on the phone's screen, just before the guy apparently sends it to someone. Next we see the face of a young woman, seemingly the recipient, with an amused expression...'"
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Microsoft Quickly Revises "Sexting" Ad For Kin Phone

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  • LOLwut? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PhxBlue (562201) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:35PM (#31885108) Homepage Journal
    Okay, I could see a problem if it were a female breast ... but who the fuck thinks that sending a picture of a male breast is "sexting"?
    • Re:LOLwut? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by causality (777677) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:40PM (#31885138)

      Okay, I could see a problem if it were a female breast ... but who the fuck thinks that sending a picture of a male breast is "sexting"?

      If they think a man's bare chest is in any way a private part or constitutes nudity, then I imagine these prudes would have a heart attack if they went to any beach.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:40PM (#31885140)
    • Re:LOLwut? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by MichaelSmith (789609) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:41PM (#31885146) Homepage Journal

      Okay, I could see a problem if it were a female breast ... but who the fuck thinks that sending a picture of a male breast is "sexting"?

      Women? Gay people?

      • Re:LOLwut? (Score:5, Informative)

        by AnonGCB (1398517) <[7spams] [at] [gmail.com]> on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:57PM (#31885218)
        As mentioned elsewhere, male breasts are generally not considered a private part, regardless of who they are attractive for.
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward

          Weirdo QotD: In 100 years, would male nipples be considered private if we started wearing bras/tops today?

        • Re:LOLwut? (Score:4, Insightful)

          by ArundelCastle (1581543) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:59AM (#31885418)

          As mentioned elsewhere, male breasts are generally not considered a private part, regardless of who they are attractive for.

          Which is clearly a cultural and societal double-standard that topfree-rights advocates oppose. Of course back in my day, males didn't have breasts, they had pecs.
          Lets use this example: Is a pierced male nipple somehow less sexual than a pierced female nipple, purely because a man can display his chest freely? The result and motivation for the wearer is arguably the same regardless of gender or sexual preference. Sexy is whatever gets you hot, not what a ratings board or a family advocate group says.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by drsmithy (35869)

            Lets use this example: Is a pierced male nipple somehow less sexual than a pierced female nipple, purely because a man can display his chest freely?

            Yes.

    • Re:LOLwut? (Score:5, Funny)

      by lul_wat (1623489) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:56PM (#31885212)
      Hello? Also this ad is terrible. Atleast cover some of the features of the device, I can already put my current cellphone up my shirt o that's not a selling point
      • by tsa (15680)

        The ad never even shows what that weird thing is those people are carrying. Is it a sort of PhotoPod with which you can send hpotos to other people in the neighbourhood?

    • by deniable (76198)
      It might be 'sexting' if he has text tattooed on it, otherwise it's just another photo.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Larryish (1215510)

      Sine when does Microsoft support "sexting" your "kin"?

      What is this, rural Arkansas?

  • MOOBS!? MOOBS! (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I think somebody is confused about what sexting is.

    • Its just a little concerning that they decided to advertise how easy it is to take pictures of your body parts and send them to people.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Moridin42 (219670)

        I.. hope you're joking.

        If not, I have news for you. Every phone that has ever advertised that it is easy to take pictures is a phone that has advertised the exact same thing. Unless, of course, the process of sending those pictures has been some arcane ritual that can only take place on the third minute of the seventh hour the day after your first born takes its first breath. Which is probably not the case.

        What you take pictures of and how easy it is to take them are separate issues. If it is easy to take a

      • Newsflash (Score:3, Interesting)

        by cyclomedia (882859)

        Everyone* on the planet has breasts and nipples. The two types of trouser monster are distributed half and half*. Everyone* who's undergone puberty has sex, usually for fun. One day everyone's naked pictures and sex stories will be on the internet and no one will care anymore, it might put a bunch of celebrity papparazi out of business because no one's career will be ruined because of naked videos or pictures because it wont be a big deal. Eventually.

        * Approximate values.

  • by Merakis (959028) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:37PM (#31885118)
    Mother's hide your daughters. I hear 'The Nippler' is in town.
  • Uptight much? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rog7 (182880) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:38PM (#31885122)

    Oh good lord, how uptight does our society need to be?

    It's a contradiction too, because sexualized youth seems to be perfectly acceptable as long as it's from a Mickey Mouse Club alumni that promises abstinence.
     

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Mashiki (184564)

      Yeah but me committing mass murder with a tactical nuke in FO3 is perfectly OKAY! I'll be over here, beating my head against the door frame. Maybe when I pass out and wake up, things will make sense. Or I'll be brain damaged...I think that's win-win!

    • Let's not forget the Disney's High School Musical star Vanessa Hudgens [wikipedia.org] who posed for a nude picture that she lost control of and got leaked. While this led to a scandal in 2006, she seems to have recovered her career and become a non-Disney-clean actress.

    • Re:Uptight much? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by gmhowell (26755) <gmhowell@gmail.com> on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:02AM (#31885240) Homepage Journal

      No shit. Considering how often we hear about porn moving technology, how big 'The Valley' is, and so forth, can we please shed this neo-Puritanical bullshit in the US?

      Guess what: normal, healthy people like to fuck. Normal, healthy people (especially men) like to look at other normal, healthy people. Just because your version of the FSM said it was all "eww, icky, gross" does not mean the rest of us should suffer.

      • by xenobyte (446878)

        This quote seems appropriate here: "Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." - by H. L. Mencken.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by fermion (181285)
      Here is the thing. It would be nice if we in the US were not so afraid of bodies. OTOH, this is changing. There was a time not so long ago when we could not show a woman wearing a bra on TV. Now women's bodies are becoming less of a taboo, but men's bodies seem to be almost as much as taboo. With this the case, it seems as if there is some sort of objectifying going on rather than just the depiction of the natural form. It would be different if both genders were parading around in skivvies.

      But in th

    • by Kethinov (636034)

      Yeah that ad was pretty harmless. In fact, I was surprised at how generally wholesome it seemed. A bunch of kids dancing to pleasant pop'ish song. Speaking of which, does anyone know what song that is? I rather liked it.

  • Fucking Puritans (Score:5, Insightful)

    by QuantumG (50515) * <qg@biodome.org> on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:38PM (#31885126) Homepage Journal

    People have bodies.. get over it.

    Sexting is a "phenomena" of prudes having to face the fact that not everyone experiences the same reservations as them about nudity. No-one is forcing them to participate.

    • The puritans seem to have a contradiction between "Protect the kids from the Registered Sex Offenders(tm)" and the fact that religious leaders who are sex-starved by their jobs seem to have a high rate of becoming Registered Sex Offenders(tm).

      The anti-child-porn laws of the Republican error er, era are now untouchable because of the "think of the children" defense, but are clearly leading to over protection that doesn't let kids grow up until they're 18... at which point all of their protections lapse and t

      • by QuantumG (50515) *

        This has nothing to do with children. The people in that Ad could be 40+ and these idiots would still have a problem with it.

        • All cool new phones are expected to be what the teens want, working age people are told to use Blackberry or other business-aimed PDA/Phones, and grandparents are lucky if they can understand the Jitterbug.

    • by $RANDOMLUSER (804576) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:04AM (#31885248)
      Fucking Puritans



      Amusing choice of adjectives.
    • by Jeremi (14640) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:46AM (#31885380) Homepage

      Sexting is a "phenomena" of prudes having to face the fact that not everyone experiences the same reservations as them about nudity. No-one is forcing them to participate.

      Clearly you've never received a visit from "Mr. Goatse" on your cell. I had to soak mine in bleach for an hour, and Verizon wouldn't honor the warranty after that.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 18, 2010 @01:09AM (#31885446)

      "Puritanism - the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." - Henry Mencken

    • by pushing-robot (1037830) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @01:55AM (#31885548)

      People have bodies.. get over it.

      As the spokesman for the brain-in-vat segment of the Slashdot community, I submit that you are an insensitive clod.

  • by Securityemo (1407943) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:41PM (#31885144) Journal
    Seriously? Is people who think like this a large enough fraction of their market base that they actually feel like they have to appease them?
    • by AlamedaStone (114462) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:26AM (#31885312)

      Seriously? Is people who think like this a large enough fraction of their market base that they actually feel like they have to appease them?

      The only reason to defend sexting is if you like child pornography. You aren't a ... pedophile... are you?

      I mean, think of the children.

      The children know that Freedom is what we believe in our hearts to be morally right! And we here in America love our freedom, no matter what some experts would like us to believe! After all, 9/11 happened because they hated our Freedom, so anyone that can't think of the children might as well be terrorists. It's about Family Values.

      Family, Faith and Freedom are what separate us and make us the greatest nation in the world!

      God Bless America.

  • Sexting (Score:4, Funny)

    by MichaelSmith (789609) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:42PM (#31885152) Homepage Journal

    Clearly I was a teenager in the wrong millennium.

  • by $RANDOMLUSER (804576) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:48PM (#31885180)
    They could have shown the Blue Balls Of Death.
  • This commercial (Score:3, Insightful)

    by codepunk (167897) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:53PM (#31885192)

    Never mind the MOOBS this commercial is worse than the one with Bill wiggling his ass. You can tell some 70's Microsoft Hippie Chick manager wrote and produced it, total fail.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Dhalka226 (559740)

      Why? Have you ever heard the saying "all publicity is good publicity?"

      I'm not going that far, but for creating a "controversial" ad likely on the cheap they have half the Internet talking about it and their product, one way or another. My exposure to the Kin is now one TV commercial and one Internet conversation on Slashdot. One cost them a little money and one was completely free.

      I don't know if it was intentional. I doubt it matters. The reality is they just got hundreds of thousands of dollars o

  • Whats the Problem? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by drolli (522659) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:54PM (#31885196) Journal

    I mean it wouldnt be something I do, but both persons involved seem to be grown-ups, in a perfectly concious state, and it seems to be funny to both (for whatever reason). To me the complete scene is as cryptic as the idea why i would buy a phone from Microsoft; maybe this is just to show that the phone does not have real features going beyond an arbitrary cameraphone from 5years ago (but *with touch*). Overall the video seems to aim at people around 25 i would say.

    So i dont understand if that is "sexting", i dont understand what the word exactly means (it seems diffuse), i dont see why i would complain about adults (male or female) sending pictures of breasts to other adults (as long as both sides are fine with it). But i think nodoby should complain by depicting seemingly funny things in an advertisement, even if the people in it act highly irrational.

    I am actually more annoyed by advertisments still exhibiting old gender role models.

    • by dangitman (862676)
      Yeah, what I'm puzzled about is what the ad is supposed to mean, and why I'm supposed to want the phone because of it, not because of some exposed nipples.
  • by LostCluster (625375) * on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:54PM (#31885202)

    The Kin series of phone seems to be all about easy sharing with a green button dedicated to that called the "Kin Spot"... but well, that can be taken the wrong way, can't it?

  • by bipbop (1144919) on Saturday April 17, 2010 @11:55PM (#31885206)
    Sexting with kin? Now your incest can have more manboobular visuals? What?
  • Send pictures of your dong to Microsoft now!

    • by deniable (76198)
      Careful, they might send back some of my responses to their 'Customer Satisfaction Surveys.'
    • Send pictures of your dong to Microsoft now!

      Probably won't work - I'm sure that the Kin will detect those yellow dots they put on banknotes and refuse to take the picture. I expect even Vietnam have adopted them by now.

      (Disclaimer: this is a joke based on the fact that us westerners think the name of the Vietnamese currency is funny. If you find yellow spots on the other sort of dong, please seek medical advice).

      Which gives me a brilliant idea! Soccer moms of the world!! Get your sprogs' privates tattooed with yellow dots and no nasty pervert wil

  • With Kin Mobile you can share pictures with your Kin of your Moobs using the new iMoob app.

  • This keeps happening (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Gadget_Guy (627405) * on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:04AM (#31885246)

    I am sure that it is part of the advertising plan to be "forced" to withdraw sensational ads as a way of gaining extra publicity. I have never seen this ad, and only once heard about the Kin phone, but now I have been exposed (oh dear) to the campaign as a news item.

    I am sure that if nobody complained then the ad executives would plant their own complaints in the news just to get people to talk about it. How many times do you hear news reports about people being outraged without ever saying who those people are. I imagine that it is rare to need to resort to doing their own complaints, because the people who get offended by this are so predictably vocal. And who cares if you piss them off, because the target market are young people who think sexting is OK and who would be quite happy to rebel against the prudes.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by clarkkent09 (1104833) *
      I am sure that it is part of the advertising plan to be "forced" to withdraw sensational ads as a way of gaining extra publicity. I have never seen this ad, and only once heard about the Kin phone, but now I have been exposed (oh dear) to the campaign as a news item.

      That's exactly what I thought. As far as I can tell it was ONE blogger who only said that there was something a bit creepy about the ad. Nobody would have noticed or cared until MS publicly withdrew the ad and apologized, at which point every
  • This product's entire line of advertising has rubbed me the wrong way. When I first saw an ad for a Kin online, I didn't yet know what it was. All I saw was your typical dating-site ad woman accompanied by a caption saying "Could you be friends with someone you don't even know?" So my first impressions? That it was a dating site. I don't see future advertisements getting much better.
  • That phrasing made a relatively dull topic seem awkward enough that reading it could neuter a rabbit. It's a good thing rabbits can't read.

  • by jamesh (87723) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @12:29AM (#31885328)

    I'd never even heard of the 'Kin Phone' until just now... is Slashdot being assimilated into the Microsoft marketing machine?

  • I'm impressed that their phone can focus that close. The original iPhone has a minimum focusing distance of about 1 meter. Later autofocus versions get down to 10cm. Does the Kim camera have autofocus? They don't mention it.

    The Kim site says "pictures are simulated". Right.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Toward the end of the video (ad) there is a black man and white woman kissing.

    Back when I was young that would have been the controversy, not a white dudes nipple.

    So from that point of view I think we are making progress.
  • Creepy? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by tomthepom (314977) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @01:08AM (#31885444)

    Creepy? Really? What exactly is 'creepy' about it?
    Unless you mean 'likely to make a large section of the population feel uneasy because they've been cowed into a pathetic state of guilt and self-censorship in the face of a narrow-minded and hypocritical moral hysteria of a small minority'. Yeh you're right, that is creepy.
     

  • by AHuxley (892839) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @01:09AM (#31885448) Homepage Journal
    Showing the pleasure you cannot have with an ipad.
    The world has moved to an audio and visual level and expects it anytime, anywhere.
    We have the software, hardware and bandwidth, so lets have fun.
    Why wait for a US telco or "Jobs" to understand that people like to reach out and relate in both the visual and emotional?.
    MS could have done it in a more nudge nudge way, but when has MS ever really understood marketing beyond a tool of market control.
    But for buzz and a way better than Apple hardware offereing - a real win :)
  • A young guy's bare titty! Oh, my god, save me from Satan's hordes! Will somebody please tell fundamentalcase Americans and all the castrated, ass-kissing business drones who are afraid of them to go fuck themselves? Nobody seems to have much of a problem with 29 miners who died because of corporate greed, but some nimrod who sticks his cellphone camera under his shirt causes squeals and apologies from the corporate community? A lot of people are badly in need of a pimp-slap, and most of them are wearin

  • self pedophiling (Score:3, Interesting)

    by NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @02:02AM (#31885566)
    In some states doing something like this could be construed as "sexual relations with a minor" (i.e., yourself). Theoretically, that could land you in jail for 5-10 years and forever be labeled a pedophile.

    'Sex' once meant intercourse whereby the female could be impregnated. Now it can mean anything, including petting, phone sex, Internet sex, and sexting using SMS. Someday, it might mean alluding to sex through indirect references such as these. Eventually, it might even mean any arousal of the autonomic nervous system. You may someday get busted for having a wet dream. I am sure that will never happen until, of course, it does happen.
  • Quick edit? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Stan Vassilev (939229) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @02:19AM (#31885600)

    prompting a quick edit and an apologetic tweet.

    How quick was it? Was it so quick, that you'd think they had the edit prepared in advance, just waiting for the "outrage"?
    Come on guys, those are old, old tricks.

    So, anyway, Microsoft have a new mobile device again with a hip ad again, awkward name again, that's trying to compete with a similar device from Apple again. Best of luck to them.

    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

  • ...because no one else will.
  • As if the lack of IM or apps didn't get it off to a bad enough start. And not I don't care, but the parents that buy these things for the kiddies likely will.
  • I can't get over the idea of people so sexually represed that think the video is scaring.
    Ok, it has some really minor sexual potential.

    But people have sex.

    Yes, people, some people fuck with other people. Sending some tits is just something that happends.

    "OH THE HORROR!."

    Is the real world. The people that get scared about this, still have a 4 years old mind.

  • by jevring (618916)
    Why the moral panic? So what if people see some breasts? Male or female. I don't get why this is even an issue.
  • by itsdapead (734413) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @03:55AM (#31885836)

    Microsoft's Kin mobile phone project

    Hate to be a 'kin grammar Nazi but there's a 'kin apostrophe missing there (to indicate missing letters - actually there should be one after as well, but that looks silly and the "g" is usually silent anyway).

    As in: "'kin hell, some 'kin perv has sent me a 'kin picture of his 'kin moob! Ugh, its 'kin mingin'!"

    They've failed to 'kin notice that, but they're worried about 'kin man tits?

    (Plus, Kin Sexting sounds a bit incestuous...)

    (To appease Pratchett fans, perhaps the next Android phone will be the "-ing"...)

  • The point (Score:5, Insightful)

    by wisnoskij (1206448) on Sunday April 18, 2010 @07:28AM (#31886320) Homepage

    While the ad only showed a mans chest, that is not the point of the controversy.
    The point is that the ad was basically advocating sexting.

    I am pretty sure no one was mad about the ad containing a males chest.

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