AT&T Sues Verizon Over "Map For That" Ads 249
MahlonS writes "AP is reporting on a suit filed in Northern Georgia in which AT&T claims that Verizon's 'There's a Map for That' ads are misleading and amount to deceptive trade practices. Verizon had already agreed to modify their original ad to include a tag line that voice and data services are available outside 3G coverage areas." What's interesting is that on some level, this is actually a lawsuit over data visualization.
I'm not seeing it. (Score:5, Informative)
It even said in the FA that they were maps of the 3G coverage. As long as the maps are accurate, I can't see what they are complaining about. Nowhere is it implied that the normal service is limited to those same maps.
A case of sour grapes by AT&T.
Maybe if they'd use some of that iPhone money to expand their infrastructure instead of hiring lawyers and racking up executive bonuses...but nah, that's crazy talk.
Re:Good (Score:5, Informative)
Disagree completely. I think the ads are quite obvious in that
A) It clearly states it is a 3G coverage map
and
B) There is a sentence on the bottom of the screen that says that voice and data service are available outside the 3G coverage area.
IIRC, the ad says "3G" about 1 brazillion times as well.
Really? (Score:5, Informative)
Because the maps have a giant "3G" label, and they're both quite accurate and easy to compare...
http://gizmodo.com/5024163/att-3g-coverage-maps-updated-now-with-more-3g [gizmodo.com]
You'll have to pull up a 3G map for a city then zoom out to the national level on their own site.. (http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=voice&3g=t).
AT&T really doesn't have anything on Verizon's 3g network.
Re:I'm not seeing it. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Are the maps accurate? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Are the maps accurate? (Score:2, Informative)
I know for a fact they're not 100% accurate - Verizon's map shows 100% 3G coverage for all land within a 20 mile radius of my in-laws house. However, Verizon customers (them) get zero signal there (even when standing outdoors away from any obstructions) - not even enough to send a text message.
Conversely, AT&T shows zero 3G coverage there, and "spotty" EDGE coverage within a 20 mile radius. However, I (AT&T) get nearly full 3G signal there, with great speeds.
However, one case point like this only shows they're not 100% accurate, it makes no indication of a general trend between the two.
What would be very interesting to see is an exhaustive third-party study with a decent resolution. What would be involved in calculating this for all major nationwide carriers (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, etc.).
Re:I'm not seeing it. (Score:3, Informative)
It didn't use to be this way... maybe the numbers of iPhone 3G/3GS users may be oversaturating the network. But I'm getting very spotty coverage (dropped calls, incoming calls go straight to voicemail often, EDGE data only, etc) in the middle of metropolitan centers with solid 3G in every direction for 50+ miles (according to their map), while my friends on Verizon have more reliable service, even out in the middle of nowhere.
The service is getting to be so bad that it's affecting non-3G service. Voice calls on non-3G phones are getting dropped like crazy. Couple weeks ago, I got a text message stating that AT&T just added another cell tower in my vicinity, but I see no difference.
I've been a customer for 10+ years, but when my contract expires in March, I'm out.
Re:Good (Score:1, Informative)
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=voice&3g=t&lat=37.265625&lon=-96.416015625&sci=1 [att.com]
If AT&T doesn't like it, tough shit.
They're comparing apples to crabapples (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Good (Score:5, Informative)
Actually the iPhone is only 13.7% of smart phone sales as of Q2 2009 [wikipedia.org].
iPhone gets all the hype, and indeed it's doing quite well for itself, but it's only selling 2/3 as many units as RIM (though catching up), and it lags far behind Symbian which single handedly enjoys > 50% share.
Re:I'm not seeing it. (Score:5, Informative)
Unfortunately 3G was only mentioned after AT&T complained. Previously it just said "Out of touch" and implied that you would get absolutely no voice or data throughout vast amounts of America.
I think the editors really need to update the post - otherwise the comments are going to be filled with people making comments about the recently modified advert and not realising what was originally displayed.
Re:Good (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, blackberry is probably #1... iPhone just has more visibility.
Re:Good (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Are the maps accurate? (Score:3, Informative)
Verizon's depiction of AT&T's 3G coverage is accurate, if you go by the information available on AT&T's website.
(I posted this here [slashdot.org] a few minutes ago.)