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iPhone Nano To Be Launched By Christmas? 249

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from the wild-rumor-mongering-is-good-for-the-soul dept.
the-s-dog writes writes to mention that while there have been many people wishing on a star for an iPhone nano, it seems that at least one UK news pub is confident that it will happen, and in time for this Christmas no less. Still completely unfounded rumor, but an interesting possibility. "Apple is about to launch a 'nano' version of the hugely successful iPhone. It is expected to be in the shops in time for Christmas. The product will be launched in the UK at up to £150 for pay-as-you-go customers by O2, the mobile phone group owned by Spain's Telefonica. 'This will be a big one,' said an industry source."
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iPhone Nano To Be Launched By Christmas?

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  • iPhone Slider (Score:4, Insightful)

    by e03179 (578506) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:12PM (#24472827) Homepage

    When does the iPhone Slider with QWERTY keyboard launch?

    • by Anonymous Coward
      The new iPhone nano will not include a qwerty keyboard, as the new form factor would not allow it. I'm posting anon for obvious reasons, but as an Apple insider I will inform you that there is "slider" technology -- you see, the new form factor is a closely-guarded secret because it will be the must-have gadget of all Apple fans: it's a butt-plug! Yes, the gadget which all Mac users secretly desire but were afraid to ask for. What did you think they wanted to do? Pick up WOMEN? The female Maccies could simp
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by StreetStealth (980200)

      If Apple ever does offer an iPhone with a physical keyboard, it won't be a new version of the phone, and it definitely won't have hinges, slides, or latches.

      It will be an accessory. Most likely a minimalist Bluetooth-based slab that you set out on the desk.

    • by goombah99 (560566) on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:30PM (#24473835)

      iPhone Shuffle: Just drunk dials from your address list. Switch setting to dial in order or random.

      iPhone Femto: So small no one but smart people can see it. And you don't have to speak. You just imagine the conversation.

    • Re:iPhone Slider (Score:5, Informative)

      by Fross (83754) on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:43PM (#24473963) Homepage

      As soon as you try the current iPhone keyboard for more than 10 minutes and see it actually is REALLY good.

      As a long-time Treo 600/650 user I was really sceptical about not having a proper keyboard, but the fact is that I (and everyone I know who has tried it for a while) got used to it surprisingly quickly, 3 days at most I'd say, and now can type on it about as fast as I could my Treo. At first the predictive text (which I have to say is better than most) helped, but now I simply don't make that many mistakes.

      Comments implying it's unusable without a physical keyboard just perpetuate the fallacy that there is no other alternative. There's just stubborn people, the same ones who last generation refused to adapt to touch-tone phones, broadband, automatic gearboxes, digital synths, electric shavers, you name it. Welcome to being a Grumpy Old Man ;)

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by bluemonq (812827)

        Had an iPhone for a 8 months. Sold it, got a Blackberry Curve instead. The problem with the keyboard is not that it's unusable. I can type out words with it: usable. The problem is the lack of feedback, which leads me to pressing much harder than I need to, which leads to sore thumbs after more than just a few text messages. And I don't like that clicking noise either.

        • by Yahweh Doesn't Exist (906833) on Monday August 04, 2008 @09:24PM (#24475231)

          "Had an iPhone for a 8 months ... The problem with the keyboard is ... [it] leads me to pressing much harder than I need to, which leads to sore thumbs after more than just a few text messages."

          let me get this straight, you claim the problem with the iPhone is that 8 months was insufficient time for you to learn to stop pressing so hard that it causes you physical pain!?

          I don't think Apple is to blame for you having less capacity for learning than a pet.

          reductio: I have the same problem with silent desktop keyboards. there's no sound to let me know when to stop pressing so by the end of the day I'm just pounding my bloody fists through the table just to hear the click of my shattered bones rattling about.

          • by Yvan256 (722131) on Tuesday August 05, 2008 @12:42AM (#24476377) Homepage Journal

            So it was you [photobucket.com] all along!

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by SerpentMage (13390)

            The lack of tactile feedback is actually as user interface issue. Humans do need tactile feedback as it is something that tells the mind to STOP pushing or doing something.

            By saying, "oh this is not Apple's fault, but your own" is being a typical Apple drone where if it does not work then something is wrong with you. Guess what people Apple is not the end, just another solution.

            BTW one of the reasons you need a keyboard is that a keyboard with its tactile feedback requires less accuracy than say a keyboard

            • by emj (15659)

              The lack of tactile feedback

              Can they just us the vibrate funtion in some ingenious way then?

            • by Stooshie (993666)

              ... "oh this is not Apple's fault, but your own" ...

              Actually, a friend told me his G3 used to come up with the error "it's not my fault" occasionally.

        • My problem is the size of the keys. I have fat fingers, and without tactile feedback, it's hell trying to fit the tips of my finger into the space for a key.

          Me, I'm looking at a Nokia E71 [nokia.com] instead.

      • As soon as you try the current iPhone keyboard for more than 10 minutes and see it actually is REALLY good.

        As a long-time Treo 600/650 user...

        I would imagine that damn near any smartphone would come out ahead when compared to the stinking cesspool that is the Treo 650.

        That's like saying "When comparing the iPhone to, say, a stick in the ass with sandy Vasoline used as lube, the iPhone is REALLY good".

        Not that the iPhone isn't good. Just saying that the Treo 650 made baby Jesus cry.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        P.S. I use touch-tone phones, I have had broadband for over a decade, my car has automatic transmission, there is a digital synth in the room I'm in right now, and I haven't used a safety blade to shave my face for at least 20 years.

        However, I still like tactile feedback so that I can push buttons without looking. That doesn't make me old and unadaptable, that just means I have a preference that a touch-screen device does not meet.

      • by Repton (60818)

        Download WritingPad from the App Store. For my money (ok, the app was free :-) ), it's even better than Apple's text entry method.

      • by Urza9814 (883915)

        Wow. I thought you were gonna say it's really _bad_. I've had an iTouch for several months and I can't stand the keyboard. It's too small, it's slow to type on, and it keeps changing what you type it because it _thinks_ it knows what you're trying to type in, but it seems to have a more limited dictionary than my Verizon cell, so it never gets it right. Not to mention the fact that touchscreens in general are horrible because you can't feel the keys. My cell is an LG VX9800 (aka the Verizon En-V) with a ful

  • by Major Blud (789630) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:15PM (#24472871) Homepage
    "One expert suggested the nano phone would have a touch wheel on the back and display on the front so that numbers would be dialled from behind." I can't even fathom how hard it would be to try to use something like this. If this were the case, it would mean that there is no touchscreen, otherwise you would just dial directly from the screen. This is a rumour that I expect will never come to fruition, given the current price of the 3G.
    • by p0tat03 (985078) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:19PM (#24472945)
      Not to self: Never let financial market speculators design a phone. Clearly they are retarded in this respect.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Vectronic (1221470)

      I dunno, depending on the size, position, etc. I could see that being really easy...

      Move finger/wheel up for higher digit, down for lower digit, one tap for "Next Digit" two taps for Dial, but it would work a lot better with a "real" wheel, like a mouse wheel where it has that resistance between each scroll/click.

      You could dial, while the phone is already next to your ear, dial without even looking at it, dial while looking at the screen (instead of it being covered by your finger) etc.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by PacoCheezdom (615361)
        Or, you could use a touch-wheel to dial a phone number like ... a rotary phone dial! It would be such a novel concept.
        • Nokia already did that. Check out the Nokia 7380 [google.com].

          I love how Nokia beat Apple at their own game. They made a form-over-function phone, using something Apple is known for (the touch wheel), and with Scandinavian coolness in place of Apple pretentiousness.

          • I love how Nokia beat Apple at their own game.

            Except they didn't. Nobody's heard of that Nokia thing; everybody's heard of the iPhone. I wonder how the sales numbers of each stack up against each other?

      • by davidlowie (634713) on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:14PM (#24473655)
        How about a dial with numbers 0-9 on it, with small holes next to each number. To input a particular number you would place the included stylus into the corresponding hole, then turn the dial clockwise until it stops. Upon releasing the stylus, the dial will return to its resting position, and your chosen digit will appear on the screen.
        • I know your being funny/sarcastic... but thats not a bad idea either, for most people it would be difficult, or rather clumsy, but for blind people, it would be good, they can feel the digit their finger is on, rotate etc... although you could do the same with with a scroll, it would just have to be bigger (like briefcase/suitcase combo-lock style) or a rolling conveyor belt (not a good idea)...

          Personally, I still prefer the 10/12 button "square"... but still can see the wheel being a decent idea, plus it h

          • lol @ own comment "but still can see the wheel being a decent idea"

            Yeah shit, someone should invent the wheel already FTW!

        • by sexconker (1179573) on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:47PM (#24474011)

          You know, if you gave a rotary phone to an average teenager, they'd be unable to make calls.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Facegarden (967477)

            If you give a Windows Mobile phone to the average 50 year old, they'd be unable to do much of anything. Just saying.
            -Taylor

          • by n3tcat (664243)
            Or they would just pull out their cell phone instead.

            Just sayin...
        • by Guy Harris (3803)

          How about a dial with numbers 0-9 on it, with small holes next to each number. To input a particular number you would place the included stylus into the corresponding hole, then turn the dial clockwise until it stops. Upon releasing the stylus, the dial will return to its resting position, and your chosen digit will appear on the screen.

          Done, except the iPhone doesn't support a stylus. [lux.vu]

    • by cayenne8 (626475)
      Geez...with the price drop, it isn't that expensive anymore.

      From what I see on the 'nano' version of the phone, from the description, why would anyone want one? Sounds just like a normal phone...not a smartphone, which is what makes the iPhone interesting. And smart phones can only get just so inexpensive....

    • by Sockatume (732728)
      I imagine whatever guy in the office came up with this rumour decided to throw in some of (Microsoft's?) "see-thru tablet PC" idea for good measure.
    • by ceoyoyo (59147)

      People really love this touch sensitive back idea. It seems like it would be a good contender for the worst UI ever. And seeing as how I can't think of a single successful device that uses that system....

    • by piltdownman84 (853358) <piltdownman84@mac. c o m> on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:43PM (#24473293)
      Maybe apple is bringing back rotary dialing. You spin the click wheel on the back and the dial spins on the screen on the front. Hopefully it will make all the clicking sounds that those old phones did.
    • What? A rotary dial on a phone? It'll never happen.
    • by orasio (188021)

      I don't understand why it is insightful a comment that basically just states your lack of imagination.
      The display can show your finger as you slide it, so you know which button/hole you are tapping/dialing.
      That's the whole idea. I know touch interfaces are not that great, but there are ways to make them work, somewhat. They have been very successful with the old iPod. It doesn't have to be a good interface, it just has to be easy to learn, and well marketed.

  • by Sockatume (732728) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:15PM (#24472881)
    It's the Daily Mail, FFS. They're as gullible as they are deranged.
  • by Red Flayer (890720) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:20PM (#24472955) Journal

    'This will be a big one,' said an industry source."

    No. It will be a tiny, tiny, tiny one. One billionth the size of an iPhone. So small you will need a stylus the width of just a few carbon atoms in order to dial out.*

    It is, after all, an iPhone nano.

    *But that's ok, you can compensate for the tininess of your stylus by the smugness of owning the latest and greatest Apple offering.

    • So small you will need a stylus the width of just a few carbon atoms in order to dial out.

      Dude, next time you shrink yourself, make sure you hold on to the iPhone when you make yourself big again. After all, that instruction manual^W^W iPhone is irreplaceable!

      Now go put your red suit away.

  • by tjansen (2845) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:23PM (#24472991) Homepage

    No display, and dials random numbers.

  • ...are a bad idea. [screenlessphone.com]

    • by ceoyoyo (59147) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:42PM (#24473283)

      Now I feel old. Until I was in junior high almost no phone had a screen. Including the luggable car phones.

      Now a screenless phone is a novelty, and Slashdotters don't think it will work.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        It'll have a screen, but this is the most compact delivery of a truth I've seen around here in a while.

      • Thing is, Jobs thinks buttons are stupid. So no screen, and no buttons... makes for a rather interesting interface (unless you `talk' numbers into the phone).

        • by ceoyoyo (59147)

          I saw a phone like that. Everything went through the voice interface. I can't remember where it was. Maybe it was one of those cutting edge Japanese ones. Since I haven't seen anything like it again, I suspect it didn't work out so well.

    • by ip_fired (730445)

      Good Grief! That phone costs over $500 without a contract (or $250 with a two year contract with T-Mobile). If you need a screenless cellphone that bad, buy a cheap nokia bar phone and put electrical tape on the screen.

      That has *got* to be a joke.

      • by fbjon (692006)
        Blind people can't use those, the phone gives no feedback apart from the screen.
  • by StreetStealth (980200) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:27PM (#24473055) Journal

    Before Apple had announced the SDK, an iPhone Nano might have been a possibility. The mockups of an abbreviated Apple Touch interface floating around hint at the plausibility of getting the basics of the iPhone UI into a smaller package.

    Post-SDK, however, there's no way that's going to happen. The varying hardware feature set (camera, microphone, etc.) between the iPhone and iPod Touch are already diverse enough to make software marketing a bit dicey, but I can't see Apple introducing a major new variation to the UI for smaller screens along with a whole new set of targeting constraints for developers.

    Perhaps there is yet one way an iPhone Nano could exist: No App Store compatibility.

    • by Sockatume (732728)
      Sounds plausible to me. One of the big draws of the iPhone is its selection of apps, and they wouldn't want to cannibalise that. An iPhone Nano which just came with the iPod, phone book, and web browser features would be nice and distinct.
    • by p0tat03 (985078) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:54PM (#24473411)

      The varying hardware feature set (camera, microphone, etc.) between the iPhone and iPod Touch are already diverse enough to make software marketing a bit dicey

      If you poke around the API you will find that Apple has included ways to check the existence of various hardware capabilities (as well as network connectivity). Presumably they've already thought about devices that support different hardware profiles. For example, it is ill-advised to try and initialize the camera without first checking if it is available.

      but I can't see Apple introducing a major new variation to the UI for smaller screens along with a whole new set of targeting constraints for developers.

      Doubtful they will, but the same UI will work at different resolutions and screen sizes. I suspect the people who have hard-coded the screen width into their apps will be screwed at SOME point.

      • by BRSloth (578824) *

        Well, we won't need to hardcode sizes if the iPhone SDK had a layout manager of sorts...

        • by p0tat03 (985078)
          Yeah, I've been guilty of hardcoding these things as well. The lack of a real layout manager is a pain point that will TOTALLY ASPLODE the moment Apple starts changing the UI...
    • by LWATCDR (28044) on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:10PM (#24473615) Homepage Journal

      One has to ponder the idea that the next IPod Touch might come with a camera and maybe a GPS.
      Why not make your touch your camera as well. A camera on a media player isn't any dumber than on a cell phone.

  • What it really needs is a bottle opener - seriously apple, get on it.
  • by wpanderson (67273) on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:30PM (#24473115)

    Techcrunch reckons this is bullshit meant to drive traffic [techcrunch.com]. I'm inclined to agree.

  • for the iPhone Flea [gizmodo.com]

    One song and 5 phone numbers - that's all I need.

  • Where's The News? (Score:2, Informative)

    by justin_ramos (1335257)
    This isn't news. It's rumor and speculation with absolutely no source cited. For shame, Slashdot...
    • by wattrlz (1162603)
      It's obviously part of a conspiracy to leverage /. to generate even more iHype. Maybe the rumor was started by someone whom ScuttleMonkey owed a favor?
  • by Chris_Rank (762224) <crankNO@SPAMpushhere.com> on Monday August 04, 2008 @05:53PM (#24473405) Homepage
    Apple is also coming out with the iUnicorn 6G and (Now with Horn!) it will be ridable, require no feeding, able to fly, and it will shoot rainbows out of it ass while it cures cancer and AIDS in the onlookers below. Look for the iUnicorn 6G in Apple Stables starting this Christmas for a starting price of 299, 399 with glitter.
  • I'm sure there will be several jokes and some Apple bashing, but putting all that aside, I think this could be a pretty good idea, but wonder which direction this would go.

    I would bet that somehow, somewhere, some functionality will be sacrificed. For example, they could combine an iPod Nano with a phone, give you no games or apps, and even sacrifice contacts/calendars. Or, the less expected route (but I think better) would be to give a phone that sacrifices the iPod functionality (no music/video), but s

  • The Daily Mail?! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Peregr1n (904456) <ian.a.ferguson@gmail.com> on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:04PM (#24473531) Homepage
    Oh for Christ's sake - when will Slashdotters learn, the Daily Mail is nothing more than a comic? I realise most contributors here are American and can't be expected to know the wide ranging differences between British news rags, but our tabloids like the Mail can be trusted as far as you can throw a UFO. If an 'inside source' really did leak this story, and nowhere else but the Daily Mail has reported it, it's because everyone else has laughed the source out of the door.
  • As they don't ever release an iPhone Shuffle ;)

  • How much will internet access cost on Pay As You Go? It seems like a lot of the features of the iPhone rely on having a network connection, but at current rates it would cost you an awful lot to make use of them on a PAYG contract.

  • by spleen_blender (949762) on Monday August 04, 2008 @06:47PM (#24474017)
    This "article" is advertising. Why the hell would you give apple free advertising on the front page. At least MS pays for a banner. Keep your guard up people, advertisers spend about as much money as the government on psychological studies of the public so they know how to get under the radar of most people.
  • All i want (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Reed Solomon (897367)
    Is for a nokia style flip phone with an original iphone style scrollwheel and monochrome or minimalist screen similar to regular ipods, that uses mini-SD memory. that's all. Is that too much to ask for?
  • I seriously doubt there will be a phone.
    A new nano mp3 player which is basically a small touch, yes, no problems believing that however.

    I'd put this rumour in the very unlikely basket

  • This belongs on Digg, not /..

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