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USB-Powered Linux Server Fits in Your Pocket 252

McSpew writes "A small company from Utah (no, not that one) has announced the BlackDog USB-powered Linux server. It includes a fingerprint reader, a 400MHz PowerPC, 64MB of DRAM and 256MB or 512MB of flash and it runs Debian. The host PC sees it as a CD-ROM drive."
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USB-Powered Linux Server Fits in Your Pocket

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  • It's not SCO but... (Score:5, Informative)

    by MULTICS_$MAN ( 692936 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:01PM (#13299852)
    It does co-star Darl's old IKON buddy and "Haloween memo" author Mike Anderer. There must be SCO IP in that, burn it. Oh, nevermind their "server" (you call THAT a server) just melted down anyway.
  • by dysk ( 621566 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:02PM (#13299859)
    It actually has very little to do with being seen as a CD-ROM drive by the desktop.
    To access and use your BlackDog, you merely plug it in to your host computer's USB port* and BlackDog takes over! Your host machine's monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Internet connection are taken over by BlackDog for the duration of your session, when you are done, you simply remove BlackDog and everything on the host is returned to its original state.
  • Re:Wait wait wait... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Klivian ( 850755 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:05PM (#13299878)
    No, since none or nearly none BIOS versions can boot from a USB storage device. It's used to boot a PC in server configuration, using the Debian on the USB device. No OS are needed on the machine which it is plugged in, so there is no OS suposed to be running an able to mount it.
  • by __aaaaxm1522 ( 121860 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:10PM (#13299899)
    And how do you think it takes over your machine's monitor, keyboard, mouse and internet connection over USB?

    It mounts a small partition containing an X11 server for Windows (or your OS of choice), then runs that server and connects to its onboard Linux environment with it.

    So yes, it does have quite a bit to do with being seen as a drive by the desktop. Otherwise, your Windows machine wouldn't be able to talk to it.
  • Re:Wait wait wait... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Cheerio Boy ( 82178 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:11PM (#13299905) Homepage Journal
    It's seen as a CD ROM drive? Why? How does that even make sense? It's USB; shouldn't it mount through the OS's USB subsystems as a removable USB storage device?

    My guess is that they have the USB info set so it will be recognized as a USB CD-ROM drive and so they can use Auto-start, if it's enabled, to run their software atomatically.

    What little I can gleam from the site tells me that it's the front-end for a bunch of webapps or something to allow you to work with a remote desktop on any web connection.

    But that's just a guess since the site is now hosed...
  • Re:Surprising (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:14PM (#13299917)
    "I wonder how much heat this thing disipates, as my IBook2 dual usb (500 mhz) PPC can get quite hot."

    A USB port (on a motherboard) is only specified to deliver 0.2A of current; so @5V that is only 1W.

    The PPC in that thing is designed for embedded applications. It has no Altivec, and probably has a lot fewer IPC than the PPC than your iBook. Therefore it makes a lot less heat.

    Fran
  • Re:Possible Uses (Score:3, Informative)

    by bahwi ( 43111 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:17PM (#13299942)
    Because when you unplug it no one can leave you voicemail.
  • Re:What? (Score:4, Informative)

    by stox ( 131684 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:28PM (#13299995) Homepage
    Quite a bit could be served off such a platform. The first website I administered ran off a 50MHz Sparc with 64MB of memory. Static content would not be a problem at all. I'm afraid java would be out of the question, though. ;->
  • Link (Score:4, Informative)

    by luiss ( 217284 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @09:38PM (#13300048)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 11, 2005 @11:12PM (#13300510)
    Michael E. Anderer, of the SCOX "Halloween" memo fame is the CTO of Realm Systems. His old homepage "S2 consulting" hosted the developer forum for Realm. A number of other M$FT links raise the disturbing question if this product is real or elaborate "opposition" research on the part of Redmond.

    Realm Systems has secured an additional $9 million dollars in funding on July 7, 2005.

    The paper SEC filing, describing the new funding has been secured by penguinistas, and is available at : Debt and bridge financing [rushing.to]

    $7.5 MM came from a single unnamed individual.

    Frank Artale, an ex-M$FT VP for NT, was appointed chairman of the board of Realm in January, 2005 , when Realm had secured a previous $8 million dollar investment.

    Frank Artale and Michael Anderer's stories first become entertwined over Entirenet. Entirenet is a Redmond and Bellevue, Washington based Windows documentation company. Anderer served as nominal CEO of Entirenet in the 2001- 2003 timeframe. Artale, then serving as Veritas VP for Windows had purchased Entirenet for Veritas in March 2001 for an undisclosed ammount.

    Anderer, acting as CEO of Entirenet, announced the acquisition of the South Carolina M$FT training firm, HunterStone, in November, 2002.

    Artale had left Veritas by March 2003 when his next venture "Consera Software" was announced. Consera had venture funding provided by Ignition Partners, a Seattle venture outfit staffed with a prominent group of ex-M$FT VP's, including Cameron Myhrvold. Myhrvold has especially close ties to Artale.

    Anderer left Entirenet about this time.

    Frank Artale has continued to work with Ignition Partners. He was appointed Chairman of the Board of Rendition Networks in Sept 2004, as part of a $6 million dollar Ignition investment. Rendition was quickly sold in Dec, 2004.

    Other Artale ventures include Therion, sold in May 2005. He has recently added to the Kenai Software board in July 2005 Kenai's executives, e.g. David Mock and Byrren Yates (CFO) overlap Realm's executives and public investors. Artale is considered an expert on the profitable exit sale of start ups. Other Frank Artale endeavors include advisory roles at Zenprise, Centrify, Accel Partners, and formerly a board position at Level 8.

    Michael Anderer's continuing relationship with the Seattle-area venture capital organized by highly placed ex-M$FT VP's indicates his reputation has survived the Halloween memo release.

  • Here's the point... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Thursday August 11, 2005 @11:29PM (#13300634) Journal
    Why would anyone really need a pocket-sized server in their pocket anyways? People are just throwing new, pointless, mini-sized devices out everyday these days....

    The idea is that you carry your computer around with you, session and all. You can use any PC (with Windows, Linux, BSD, ...) / Mac / whatever for a screen, keyboard, and network connection.

    Be in the middle of a session at work. Unplug it, go home, plug it in. You're right back in your session. Unplug, go to class, plug in, ditto. Unplug, go to library, plug in. Unplug, go to iternet cafe, plug in. Unplug, go to China, plug in...

    If you were editing a document it's ready for the next keystroke. If you were reading mail you're still in the mail reader, still looking at the same letter at the same point in the scroll buffer. If you were browsing the web you are still on the same page with the same brower history. And so on. Your files came with you. Your state came with you. Your whole computer came with you - or at least the parts of it that are important for preserving your state. Screen, keyboard, mouse, video card, internet connection - use whatever is handy. They're heavy. They'll work just fine for this service for several generations after the machine they are attached to went obsolete. Why buy new ones? Why tie yourself to a particular one at a particular site?

    Pull it out, it senses the loss of connection and saves anything still in RAM to a non-volatile memory (flash or disk if they can get it) before it runs out of the power in the onboard capacitor. Plug it in and it boots up, recovers state, and sweet-talks the new machine into giving it a full-screen window and the use of keyboard, mouse, and comm stack.

    The designers brought this out for licensing to manufacturers (using a slightly-hacked BSD onboard) over a year ago. I saw their booth at Supercom in Las Vegas back then. (Target was to make the small config for under $100 in bulk for schoolkids, maybe $200 in a big one with postage-stamp hard drive for the rest of us.) It's nice to see a version finally on the market - and with Linux yet.
  • by kvigor ( 66615 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @12:05AM (#13300826)
    The device is seen as *both* a CD-ROM and a network device. As the parent suggested, the CD-ROM is used to launch an X server on the host [1] and the network interface is used to allow that X server to communicate to the applications running on the device.

    (disclaimer: I am an employee of Realm Systems but do not speak for the company)

    [1] obviously useful only for Windows hosts, since Linux hosts will almost always have an X server running already.
  • Re:Surprising (Score:4, Informative)

    by kvigor ( 66615 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @12:08AM (#13300841)
    The device currently consumes ~300 milliwatts max and is barely warm to the touch. Naturally it consumes far less when idle.
  • Re:Cool Alarm (Score:4, Informative)

    by kvigor ( 66615 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @12:17AM (#13300890)

    Ethernet would have made this an instant sale for me. I could develop and demo network appliance products on the road without virtual machines. Without Ethernet, this is just a really portable terminal to me.


    Despite the summary claiming the device appears as a CD-ROM, it also appears to the host as a network device (masquerading as a ethernet-over-USB dongle). Sounds to me like it might be downright handy for your application.
  • by blang ( 450736 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @02:22AM (#13301477)
    Mod up parent please.
    Or i'll do one better, repeat the whole post here:

    Cut from an AC post:

      Michael E. Anderer, of the SCOX "Halloween" memo fame is the CTO of Realm Systems. His old homepage "S2 consulting" hosted the developer forum for Realm. A number of other M$FT links raise the disturbing question if this product is real or elaborate "opposition" research on the part of Redmond.

    Realm Systems has secured an additional $9 million dollars in funding on July 7, 2005.

    The paper SEC filing, describing the new funding has been secured by penguinistas, and is available at : Debt and bridge financing

    $7.5 MM came from a single unnamed individual.

    Frank Artale, an ex-M$FT VP for NT, was appointed chairman of the board of Realm in January, 2005 , when Realm had secured a previous $8 million dollar investment.

    Frank Artale and Michael Anderer's stories first become entertwined over Entirenet. Entirenet is a Redmond and Bellevue, Washington based Windows documentation company. Anderer served as nominal CEO of Entirenet in the 2001- 2003 timeframe. Artale, then serving as Veritas VP for Windows had purchased Entirenet for Veritas in March 2001 for an undisclosed ammount.

    Anderer, acting as CEO of Entirenet, announced the acquisition of the South Carolina M$FT training firm, HunterStone, in November, 2002.

    Artale had left Veritas by March 2003 when his next venture "Consera Software" was announced. Consera had venture funding provided by Ignition Partners, a Seattle venture outfit staffed with a prominent group of ex-M$FT VP's, including Cameron Myhrvold. Myhrvold has especially close ties to Artale.

    Anderer left Entirenet about this time.

    Frank Artale has continued to work with Ignition Partners. He was appointed Chairman of the Board of Rendition Networks in Sept 2004, as part of a $6 million dollar Ignition investment. Rendition was quickly sold in Dec, 2004.

    Other Artale ventures include Therion, sold in May 2005. He has recently added to the Kenai Software board in July 2005 Kenai's executives, e.g. David Mock and Byrren Yates (CFO) overlap Realm's executives and public investors. Artale is considered an expert on the profitable exit sale of start ups. Other Frank Artale endeavors include advisory roles at Zenprise, Centrify, Accel Partners, and formerly a board position at Level 8.

    Michael Anderer's continuing relationship with the Seattle-area venture capital organized by highly placed ex-M$FT VP's indicates his reputation has survived the Halloween memo release.

  • Re:Surprising (Score:2, Informative)

    by BlackDogBoy ( 907081 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @03:16AM (#13301687)
    It does show up as a network device, actual a USB ethernet NIC for which the PC already has drivers. When the PC brings up the interface it finds what it thinks is a network with another machine on it but actually its just BlackDog.

    This is of course after getting control of the PC using the CDROM and autorun and deploying the X server and the user space NAT to give the device access to the networks that the PC can see.

    It and the PC are then peers on their own IP routed ethernet over USB network. No need for silly FAT32. It uses Samba to export whatever you like to the PC.

    It could also deploy VNC or any other terminal client if you like, but X11 is most direct. The apps themselves can be the ones it's running or ones that it automatically connects through to in the back.

    It can open an IPsec VPN session that only it sees, the host PC only routing the traffic, but not able to interpret it. It can then get access to back-end services without exposing them to the PC's vulnerabilities.
  • Re:Marketing Magic? (Score:2, Informative)

    by BlackDogBoy ( 907081 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @03:31AM (#13301749)
    It launches an X11 server on the host and it runs the X clients on it own CPU. It communicates as a peer on a IP routed ethernet over USB network.

    It can be used to provide the authentication tokens and connect to back end terminal servers (of any odd type).
  • by kvigor ( 66615 ) on Friday August 12, 2005 @09:59AM (#13303405)
    It certainly can use autorun on Windows, which is very convenient and is a primary reason for using a CD-ROM interface. But the CD image is a .ISO file served off the device's flash, which means it can contain anything. As we ship it, it has an AUTORUN.INF and an X server and some handy networking tools. But it's trivial to change the CD image to hold whatever you may want.

    This is an incredibly flexible device. You can change almost anything about it. Heck, if you're up to hacking kernel drivers, you can make it emulate ANY USB device. Thus far, we've had call for emulating CD-ROM and ethernet-over-USB. But there's no reason it can't appear to the host as a mass storage device. Or a keyboard (take *that*, keyloggers!). Or a serial port dongle. Or... anything USB at all.

    None of this flexibility, alas, will make any Linux distro in the world dumb enough to autorun software just because somebody presented a CD-ROM, unlike another certain popular OS. So autorunning on a Linux host requires a hotplug script be installed. We provide samples for some major distros and assume that the guy running Gentoo is smart enough to hack his own hotplug (or just run a .SH off the CD-ROM image).

    OS-X support is "coming soon", i.e. we plan to support it, have done nothing to prevent it working, but haven't yet spent any test cycles on it. Having got it working with the incredibly balky USB stacks in Windows and Linux, I have no doubt it will be made to work just fine.

    (again, *not* an official spokesman for the company, not legally binding, don't sue me please, yadda yadda.)

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