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Simputer Available? 194

Anonymous Coward writes "The Simputer (marketed by PicoPeta, the inventors and manufactured by the Defence Electronics PSU - BEL) has a website now and is available for sale (including outside India). Some pics can be found at the picture gallery. This story has been discussed a few times before here at /. here, here and here. Of particular note are some of the features, notably the device goes beyond the typical handheld/PDA and has some brand new innovations. For instance, it uses accelerometers to sense motion and this is used to give commands to the computer (for instance, to zoom a picture, you just have to move the Simputer towards you and to turn a page, you flick it like you would turn a page for a book. Also has an integrated smart card reader plus writer, very useful for several business applications."
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  • by rokzy ( 687636 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @03:28PM (#8690194)
    accelerometers. seems like an over-engineered solution to trivial problems, and it's easy to imagine it being more annoying than useful e.g. when looking something up while walking.

    look at the modern mobile phones e.g. Sony Ericsson P900 5-way jog-wheel, that's an excellent example of innovation - very simple and very effective.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 27, 2004 @03:39PM (#8690265)
    Overengineered?

    How about simple and cheap as hell?

    Now an accelerometer is just another surface feature on a chip. It's cheaper than a button.
  • Re:Over-correction (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Monkelectric ( 546685 ) <{slashdot} {at} {monkelectric.com}> on Saturday March 27, 2004 @03:43PM (#8690279)
    I was thinking the same thing, but I also had another concern ...how much did it cost to implement that feature? I have done some robot building in my day and pretty crappy accelerometer costs 25 - 40$.
  • by downix ( 84795 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @03:44PM (#8690289) Homepage
    I tried to contact the simputer folk on 3 different occasions to license the design to no responce. For being an "open" platform, the docs and schematics are similarly locked-down making it impossible to even do a review.
  • I don't get it (Score:3, Interesting)

    by dont_think_twice ( 731805 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @03:45PM (#8690298) Homepage
    Why is this the right type of computer for India? What is wrong with desktop PC's? We all know that a laptop costs way more then a desktop, and a tablet PC costs way more than that. This simputer sounds alot more like a tablet PC than a desktop, so I would guess it's cost would be similar.

    Shouldn't the overriding factor for underdeveloped countries be the cost? Not portability and gee-whiz features like zooming by acceleratometers?
  • Re:I don't get it (Score:2, Interesting)

    by dont_think_twice ( 731805 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @04:01PM (#8690386) Homepage
    If they can build a handheld for under 400, they should be able to build a desktop for under 150 or so. That was my point. Rather than focusing on building a cheap portable, they should focus on building a cheap desktop, because it is nearly a rule of computers that desktops are cheaper than portables.
  • connectivity (Score:3, Interesting)

    by simpl3x ( 238301 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @04:15PM (#8690463)
    bluetooth certainly adds cost to the computer, but i wonder why such technology wasn't built in, or capabilities for it added--card slot of some sort. if i recall correctly the cost was supposed to come in around 4-5 hundred dollars, which isn't bad at all. i'd love to see a review of the software--and hardware. it looks pretty polished.
  • Zoom-Zoom (Score:4, Interesting)

    by SEWilco ( 27983 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @04:25PM (#8690513) Journal
    I believe moving towards you to zoom in has already been implemented at the physical layer, but they can't claim the laws of Physics as a feature.

    The feature may have some interesting effects, with the optical zoom interacting with the on-screen zoom.

    But as someone mentioned, a jolt on a bus could appear to jiggle the view window over an unmoving "document" -- the same could be done with the Z-axis, so a jolt toward you could reduce the image so as to keep the apparent size the same. (not that the screen has enough resolution to make the reduction optically perfect)

    However, motion sickness is caused when the visual movement does not match that of the inner ear. I wonder how an unmoving object would be interpreted; maybe those with head-worn displays have some experience. (The reaction apparently is because many poisons cause visual distortions, so the resulting nausea is intended to trigger vomiting and remove any poisonous material which is still in the stomach.)

  • Re:I don't get it (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Kaboom13 ( 235759 ) <kaboom108@@@bellsouth...net> on Saturday March 27, 2004 @04:51PM (#8690651)
    $377 is more expensive then most PocketPC's. The top of the line Dell Axim X3 is $315. The specs on it far exceed the stats I've found(not 100% about their accuracy for the final model) for this Simputer. The cheap X3, at $200, still beats it. While it might have it's niche, it's definitly not cheap.
  • Re:I don't get it (Score:2, Interesting)

    by maeka ( 518272 ) on Saturday March 27, 2004 @04:59PM (#8690707) Journal
    This device (excluding the smartcard slot and USB ports) has the features of a (very) low end PalmOS machine with the price of a (very) high end PocketPC.
    The model that is expected to cost $200 dollars has a faster - more battery hungry - processor than my old Palm III, but not much more in terms of capability.
  • Re:I hear (Score:3, Interesting)

    by DAldredge ( 2353 ) <SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com> on Saturday March 27, 2004 @06:29PM (#8691325) Journal
    About 200 Bharti computer engineers will be transferred to IBM's Indian unit. However, some of the work will be transfered to the US and elsewhere.

    Most of that work will still be done in India.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 27, 2004 @06:40PM (#8691386)
    Just you. It feels really natural for scrolling, for example - just tilt the device a bit to scroll (note that I am not talking about the simputer specifically, but a research device I built, but I imagine unless the simputer folk _really_ screwed up, it would feel much the same).

    On a small display like a PDA or mobile phone, it makes viewing and reading pretty much "normal sized" web pages possible - while it's basically impossible to put up with reading a 100 page pdf when you have to use a stylus to move a scroll bar around or scroll around with a directional pad, tilting the device to pan around a large virtual page is fast and intuitive (I wouldn't use it for flipping pages, better to use back/fwd buttons for that).

    On the minus side, I think nokia have fucking patented the idea in the US and Europe (despite it being blitheringly obvious to one skilled in the art... if the patent office isn't going to do patents properly, they should just stop granting patents...), so you won't see it any time soon unless you do it yourself noncommercially.
  • Re:Hot Chick (Score:3, Interesting)

    by orthogonal ( 588627 ) on Sunday March 28, 2004 @01:06AM (#8693709) Journal
    The average indian would sooner drink piss than marry (or let their daughter marry...) a non-indian....

    Well sir, I am understanding why they would not be wanting their daughter to marry an uninformed Anglo-Desi like you (the emphasizing is being my own):
    Morarji Desai, a Brahmin belonging to the Anavil sub-caste, was installed as Prime Minister of India on March 24, 1977.... Immediately after coming to power, he devoted all his powers to propagating Brahmanism, especially

He has not acquired a fortune; the fortune has acquired him. -- Bion

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