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Dell Introduces Laptop With WUXGA 532

Cutie Pi writes "Dell has just released the Inspiron 8500, a new 15.4" widescreen notebook with a WUXGA screen--thats 1920x1200, high enough resolution to watch HDTV quality movies. Couple that with the new nVidia 64MB GeForce4 4200 Go (much faster than the ATI Radeon 9000), and you've got quite a notebook!! Can't wait to get my hands on one!"
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Dell Introduces Laptop With WUXGA

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  • Notebook != Laptop (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PseudoThink ( 576121 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:03PM (#5441792)
    Despite the headline, one can't really call it a "laptop", since using it on one's lap would create safety (and fertility) issues. Dell's official term is "notebook", but I believe "mobile computer", "traytop", and "portable space heater" are also acceptable. I challenge anyone to actually sit through a two-hour HD movie with this on their lap.
  • by ilsie ( 227381 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:08PM (#5441833)
    I would definitely go thin and light. I bought the most powerful, largest screened laptop I could find (at the time). However, it's so unweildy, and drains battery power like nothing else. If I'm lucky (with two batteries in it) I'll be able to surf for 1 hour before it goes dead. Plus, by the amount of heat it generates, I know I'm going to have lap cancer by age 35.

    In other words, I cant do a whole lot with it, and it's really heavy and awkward. My dad on the other hand, has a super small Sony Vaio that can go about 6 hours on a battery and still do everything I do, even though it's more underpowered.
  • by Kaypro ( 35263 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:11PM (#5441868)
    Having never used a widescreen aspect ratio screen I was curious as to how games handle these odd resolutions. Do they actually recognize and adjust for the aspect ratio or simply default to the highest available 3:4 setting which means the graphics start to blur? Anyone know?
  • by Maxwell'sSilverLART ( 596756 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:12PM (#5441882) Homepage

    This is a neat laptop, and I'm sure it would make a great desktop replacement, or even a good gaming laptop. That said, though, I can't bring myself to buy another Dell machine until they re-earn my trust.

    The short version of the story is that I bought a laptop from them and tried to get it fixed under warranty. They failed to fix all of the problems when I sent it back, and failed to note the problems as unfixed. When I got it back, outside of warranty, with the problems unfixed, I called Dell, and Dell refused to fix them, saying that it was out of warranty. They did, however, fix the problems they caused while it was being repaired. When I got it back from the second repair, there was an additional problem, a cracked access panel. It took a good half-hour of arguing to get them to replace the panel. I did finally get them to fix the original problem, but it took a sternly-worded letter to senior management [barefootclown.net] to make it happen. That letter details several of the problems I've had with Dell over the years; it also contains the full version of this story.

    Short answer is that I have lost my faith in Dell, and until they prove themselves to me again, I won't buy their products, and I advise other people to do the same, no matter now nifty-cool they may be.

  • by lysander ( 31017 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:14PM (#5441912)
    anyone else hate these resolution names? WUXGA? UXGA? SXGA? XGA? SVGA? VGA?

    *bangs head against wall*

    wouldn't you rather talk about 1600x1200 and the like?
  • Not quite (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BoomerSooner ( 308737 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:31PM (#5442087) Homepage Journal
    The resolution is 1900x1200 which beats the hell out of 1440x900 not to mention Apple crippled their laptops by switching to the OLD Geforce 4 Go 420 which is like the POS Geforce 4 MX. The ATI was better. Now if the new 15" comes with a nVidia Geforce 4 Go 4200 w/128MB I'll buy it. Otherwise I may hold off completely.

    I'm a huge apple fan but some of the most critical things I need to do for my company are either not available for Mac or are exponentially more expensive. BTW I develop software for Linux (2.2+), Windows (win32), Mac (OS X) and Solaris (7+). I have seen the 17" AlBooks at the Apple Store and while impressive it doesn't do much more for me than the old 15.2. If the 15.4 comes available for a decent price (see note) I'll get one as soon as they are available (not the lovely preannouncements Apple has been giving). Otherwise, I'll just get an old TiBook 1GHz for 2550 or so.

    Note: the Dell with 2.4GHz proc, 512MB 1 DIMM, GF4 4200, 60GB, 1920x1200, Extra Battery, ... is still only $3000 compared to apples $3300 for the 17" AlBook.
  • by vasqzr ( 619165 ) <`vasqzr' `at' `netscape.net'> on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:40PM (#5442165)

    Increase the font size on the other machine. A higher resolution gives you easier to read text. Period.

    Pushing 1600x1200, especially with Cleartype really strains your CPU though.

  • by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @02:42PM (#5442184)
    Short answer is that I have lost my faith in Dell, and until they prove themselves to me again, I won't buy their products, and I advise other people to do the same, no matter now nifty-cool they may be.

    And just how do they prove themselves to you again if you won't deal with them?

    I note that we have 5 Dells in our immediate family, including the 5 year old Dimension I'm typing this on. I've also worked closely with another dozen, and never had any problem with Dell service or support. I submit that your experience is not universal to all Dell owners.

  • Re:A great display (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ZorinLynx ( 31751 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @03:01PM (#5442451) Homepage
    Here's what annoys me.. Finding laptops with screens 15-16" or so that do 1600x1200 and 1920x1200 is trivial, but it's almost impossible to find a desktop flat panel that does 1600x1200 at much larger screen sizes!

    Who needs 1920x1200 on a 15" screen? yet we have to put up with 1280x1024 on 19" screens on the desktop...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @03:05PM (#5442492)
    The mobility radeon 9000 is over 6 months old, and is actually a true notebook chip designed for low power consumption.

    The GF4 4200 go is simply the desktop chip with lowered clockspeeds. It's comparable to the Geforce FX, puts out way too much heat for the application, and introduced just for the purpose of taking the performance lead from a 6 month old design from ATI. I'm surprised that someone actually used this chip...

    In a matter of days, ATI will release the M10, and nVidia will release nv31, both of which will offer better performance, support for directx 9.0 and have much lower power consumption...

    Anyone who buys this will be stuck with a battery draining, hot running card that held the performance lead for a total of 1 month before superior designs appeared
  • by SoupIsGoodFood_42 ( 521389 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @04:03PM (#5443138)
    Which brings us to a good point: Why the fuck are we still using this naming system (answer to retorical question: marketing idiots)? How many people would know what size a WUXGA screen is? I wish they would just list the resolution--1920x1200--and be done with it.
    Unfortutaly, in 3 years time, we will probably be seeing screen with XWDSUXGA (Extra-wide Double Super Ultra eXtended Graphics Adapter) etc.
  • Worse than that... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @07:24PM (#5445125)
    What I hate even worse than the stupid names,
    is the way that so many ads for laptops think
    it's sufficient to say "TFT", and they never mention
    the actual resolution at all.
  • Re:A great display (Score:3, Insightful)

    by RhettLivingston ( 544140 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2003 @11:41PM (#5446641) Journal

    I really don't understand why anyone would use a flat panel on the desktop. The cost per square foot saved doesn't come close yet to the cost of a square foot in an average home. And you can currently get 19" monitors capable of 2048x1536 for under $300. I have 3 such 19" monitors running at 1600x1200 each on my machine and can't see why anyone would settle for less. My 3 monitors + video cards cost less than a single 19" flat panel. And Ghost Recon at 2048x1536 is really cool :o)

    By the way, I've found the trick to happiness with 19" monitors at high resolution is a horizontal dot pitch of around 0.22. Anything higher causes letters to have fuzzy edges. Its this that causes eyestrain, not the size of the text. The secret to easier reading is greater sharpness, not larger size. In fact, making the size larger greatly slows the reading because there is less text in the region of sharpest focus. Most of us read at least phrases if not sentences or paragraphs, not letters and words. If you can't see a whole phrase at once in focus, you have to revert to a more primitive word by word reading pattern.

  • Re:Ram Prices (Score:3, Insightful)

    by lingqi ( 577227 ) on Thursday March 06, 2003 @02:37AM (#5447322) Journal
    I have a 8100 and 512M; I disable paging altogether; It's just not worth it - I mean, HD access slow things down AND drains power. I see no reason why anything I do should not fit into the 512M space (I know there are people who needs more for other stuff - but come on it's a laptop). Anything that needs more would usually use its own page file anyway (UT2k3, photoshop, etc etc).

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