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The X300 Could Usher in a New Generation of ThinkPads

Posted by Zonk on Sun Mar 02, 2008 05:25 PM
from the now-i-want-one dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The ThinkPad has long been a favorite of IT departments everywhere and is the preferred notebook for legions of no-nonsense users. As times have progressed the ThinkPad has improved but the X300 marks the most significant change in its design since the butterfly keyboard. While we've already discussed a few leaked specs, official news of big changes like LED-backlighting (the first on a ThinkPad) and a widescreen display accompany a number of important but smaller design tweaks. Current thinking is that these changes indicate that the X300 is the first step in a series of larger changes to the ThinkPad. The notebook has already received a number of favorable reviews, but the other changes - the ones that will ultimately trickle down to the rest of the ThinkPad line - are perhaps more interesting than this specific $2500+ notebook."

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Kyokushi writes "Gizmodo reports that some specifications of a new ultralight Lenovo X300 have been leaked. 'It appears that Lenovo have themselves a new ultralight X300 series Thinkpad — and outside of the price and release date, we have all of the specs that you need to know. At a glance, some of the major features include: a 13.3-inch LED backlit 1440X900 screen, an ultralight 2.5 pound form factor, and Intel Merom Santa Rosa Dual Core CPU (2.0 Ghz / 880 Mhz ), a 64 GB SSD, up to 4GB of DDR2 PC2-5300 memory, and 4 hours of battery life.' If this is true, then Lenovo looks to have some heavy competition for the Macbook Air." Update: 01/20 22:55 GMT by S : Corrected Gizmondo->Gizmodo.
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An anonymous reader writes "Walt Mossberg has an early look at the ThinkPad X300, Lenovo's answer to the MacBook Air. He says the ThinkPad is almost as skinny and light as the Air, but has many of the ports and features lacking on Apple's machine. The biggest downside: it costs much more and will be limited to a paltry 64 gigabytes of storage. 'Unlike the Apple, which can be ordered with a higher-capacity, lower-priced hard disk, the new ThinkPad will only be available with the expensive, limited capacity solid-state drive. So it will start at between $2,500 and $2,800-up to $1,000 more than the Apple's base price.'"
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Tom's Hardware has an interesting look at the HTC Shift, the newest contender in the ultralight portable arena, with a strong compare and contrast to the other two heavyweights, the ThinkPad X300 and the Macbook Air. "As some of you know, I actually like the Macbook Air but found the Lenovo ThinkPad X300 to be a vastly more useful product in the class. I'm one of the few folks that have been using an early version of the HTC Shift , a smaller screened ultra light tablet with a keyboard and a touch screen which is superior to both offerings in some ways and just released on Amazon.com for $1500 (someone screwed up, this wasn't supposed to happen until next week). This got me thinking: The perfect next generation ultra-sexy notebook should be a blend of all three products."
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  • by cyfer2000 (548592) on Sunday March 02, @05:27PM (#22617694) Homepage Journal
    I will wait.
  • They need to have something better then integrated video at $2500+ and even at the $1500+ price range.

    Put in a ati hyper memory or nvidia Turbo Cache card in or use the 780G amd chip set Integrated graphics with Side-port memory as local frame buffer.

    128mb
  • significant change; right..... (Score:5, Informative)

    by ntw1103 (1208178) on Sunday March 02, @05:39PM (#22617786)
    "but the X300 marks the most significant change in its design" did you miss the x41? you know the tablet. yeah, I would think that the whole swivel-touchscreen would be the most significant change. look; after that they have released more tablets following the major change that occurred in the x41. it isn't all that strange for an ultralight either, there have been a lot of tiny thinkpads. yes this one does have a wide screen, but they have had other wide-screen thinkpads too. if you ask me, yes the some changes are there, but far from the most significant changes the thinkpad line has seen.
  • Advert? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by NotZed (19455) on Sunday March 02, @05:47PM (#22617842)
    Mate, it's just another laptop. What's so revolutionary about that?

    Sounds like advertising to me.

    I do like thinkpads myself, but the only thing revolutionary about the X300 to me is it's exorbitant price.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Seriously. LED backlighting? Wiki tells me it's been on some VAIOs since 2006 and on MacBook Pros since 2007. Widescreen displays? Pretty much every manufacturer in 2007 (including Lenovo, for that matter), and a large few in 2003-2006, and as far back
      • Re:Advert? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by timeOday (582209) on Sunday March 02, @10:58PM (#22619730)

        Widescreen displays? Pretty much every manufacturer in 2007 (including Lenovo, for that matter), and a large few in 2003-2006, and as far back as 2001 for Apple
        Plus, widescreens are inferior (unless your main task is watching DVDs). They should instead be called "shortscreens." They have less surface area than a normal aspect screen with the same diagonal measurement. Ask yourself this question, do you do more vertical scrolling or horizontal scrolling?
        [ Parent ]
  • My GOD what a terrible video review! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by spoco2 (322835) on Sunday March 02, @06:05PM (#22617970) Homepage
    The Cnet one linked to above [cnet.com] has a guy trying SO HARD to do a 'TV presenter's voice'... And noooow, liiiive from Hollywood coooomes some dick doing a TERRIBLE video review.

    Urgh, stick to text.
  • Why is this here? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by TiberSeptm (889423) on Sunday March 02, @06:07PM (#22617982)
    I'm trying to figure out why this is news. It sounds like some minor tweaks to the x300, plus the OP seems ill-informed on what technologies have been used in thinkpads before.
  • Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Lunatrik (1136121) on Sunday March 02, @06:37PM (#22618228)
    I can only begin to guess who the "Anonymous Coward" that posted this story might work for....
    Go Go Slashvertisements!
  • Focus on business faltering (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ArhcAngel (247594) on Sunday March 02, @08:57PM (#22619156)
    The thing about the Thinkpad that makes them so appealing to corporate customers is there support life cycle. You knew that if you invested in accessories for a T40 those accessories would work with the T41, T42, T43, etc. until the number increments to T50 you were guaranteed your accessories would be forward compatible making the investment worthwhile for the 3/4 year life cycle your organization has planned for those devices. With the 60 series Lenovo has started to abandon this. Last year our company began implementing 60 series laptops. In less than a year the R60 was superseded by the R61. The R61 uses a new chipset and while pin compatible with their Advanced Dock I've yet to find a PCIe peripheral that will work with the R61. The R61 will not even boot with the Quad monitor video card we are using with the R60. Working with the Lenovo engineering group proved fruitless as ultimately they simply told me there was no way it would work and they had no plans on fixing it. The build materials aren't as hearty as they used to be either. I hope the x300 isn't just the next in a long line of abandoning the corporate customer that made the Thinkpad a household name.
  • by ahaning (108463) on Sunday March 02, @10:00PM (#22619456) Homepage Journal
    I've been looking around for a new notebook recently after my 3 year and 3 month old T42 with a 3-year warranty started to have problems due to the BGA [wikipedia.org] method of attaching the mobile Radeon 9600. See this thread at thinkpads.com [thinkpads.com] for more info.

    I really like the durability of my ThinkPad but this experience has left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. My 9 year old Gateway Solo 2500 still runs fine except that I've had to replace the hard drive a couple times.

    As a student and employee at a higher-education institution, however, the 34% discounts available to me on ThinkPads still makes them pretty attractive. Couple that with opting for SuSE Linux and I've got a pretty well-priced notebook.

    I am not ruling out a MacBook, however. Now that they come with Intel processors, I can pretty much have my pick of OSes other than OS X installed.
  • Could be better (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Richard_J_N (631241) on Sunday March 02, @11:55PM (#22620072)
    As a longtime thinkpad user (since the 770, now with a T60), there are several things Lenovo have got wrong:

    - No line-in for audio. This is a big problem for doing audio recordings
    - No enough ports (only 3 USB, no firewire)
    - Widescreen. Ugh. Repeat after me, laptops are for documents, not for movies. "Widescreen" just means "missing the top and bottom of the display" - it should be renamed "shortscreen".
    - Lid catches: IBM used to have two, carefully balanced; Lenovo reduced this to one as a deliberate measure, but it is now harder to open with a single hand.
    - side-mounted ports for ethernet - so the cable gets in the way on the desk.
    - Windows keys (used to be absent) - making the Ctrl and Alt keys too small.

    Thinkpads are generally quite Linux friendly (see thinkwiki.org), but still, can't we have the nice Intel i810 cards on the high-end models, instead of crippling them with useless ATI cards?

    The older models (eg 560, 770) were very well engineered, and seemed to have been designed with a little more "love". The T60 is not a bad machine, but it doesn't inspire affection and delight in the same way.

  • my thinkpad (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sentientbrendan (316150) on Monday March 03, @04:36AM (#22621466)
    the X61s by far the best designed laptop I've seen. It isn't pretty, but it is high powered processor wise and light. I think it is a shame that more companies don't look after the practical usability of laptops, but instead tend to focus on making 6+ pound behemoths with huge screens that you will never be able to move off your desk.

    Really, if you want that kind of hardware, get a desktop. As far as real laptops for mobile users go, thinkpad is the reigning king.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Nobody said anything about a backlight keyboard. There is no backlight keyboard. The [i]screen[/i] has an LED backlight, but that's hardly new, even for a Thinkpad (see x60s and x60s)
      • Re:Ruining a legend? (Score:5, Funny)

        by node 3 (115640) on Sunday March 02, @06:16PM (#22618056)
        Cut the guy some slack. He spray painted his keys black to improve usability by not being able to look at his keys, and also spray painted his screen black to improve his usage of slashdot by not being able to RTFA.
        [ Parent ]
    • Re:LED Backlight (Score:5, Informative)

      by nanimo (688603) on Sunday March 02, @06:06PM (#22617974)
      I'm sorry, but you are wrong. X60s and X61s do not have LED backlight screens.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        I'm going to guess you have the 8-cell battery.

        Just think - they're getting 4 hours out of (IIRC) a 4-cell. Half the size of your battery. Then it doesn't look so bad.