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iPhone Nano To Be Launched By Christmas?
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ScuttleMonkey
on Mon Aug 04, 2008 04:11 PM
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from the wild-rumor-mongering-is-good-for-the-soul dept.
the-s-dog writes writes to mention that while there have been many people wishing on a star for an iPhone nano, it seems that at least one UK news pub is confident that it will happen, and in time for this Christmas no less. Still completely unfounded rumor, but an interesting possibility. "Apple is about to launch a 'nano' version of the hugely successful iPhone. It is expected to be in the shops in time for Christmas. The product will be launched in the UK at up to £150 for pay-as-you-go customers by O2, the mobile phone group owned by Spain's Telefonica. 'This will be a big one,' said an industry source."
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iPhone Slider (Score:4, Insightful)
When does the iPhone Slider with QWERTY keyboard launch?
Insider knowledge... (Score:3, Funny)
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If Apple ever does offer an iPhone with a physical keyboard, it won't be a new version of the phone, and it definitely won't have hinges, slides, or latches.
It will be an accessory. Most likely a minimalist Bluetooth-based slab that you set out on the desk.
iPhone Femto and iPhone Shuffle (Score:5, Funny)
iPhone Shuffle: Just drunk dials from your address list. Switch setting to dial in order or random.
iPhone Femto: So small no one but smart people can see it. And you don't have to speak. You just imagine the conversation.
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iPhone one-button (Score:5, Funny)
iPhone one-button: just a button and 15 digit numeric display. You dial it by setting it like you would a digital alarm clock. Just hold the button down while the digits count up, stop when it gets to the number you want to dial. If you miss, you gotta go around again.
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Re:iPhone Slider (Score:5, Informative)
As soon as you try the current iPhone keyboard for more than 10 minutes and see it actually is REALLY good.
As a long-time Treo 600/650 user I was really sceptical about not having a proper keyboard, but the fact is that I (and everyone I know who has tried it for a while) got used to it surprisingly quickly, 3 days at most I'd say, and now can type on it about as fast as I could my Treo. At first the predictive text (which I have to say is better than most) helped, but now I simply don't make that many mistakes.
Comments implying it's unusable without a physical keyboard just perpetuate the fallacy that there is no other alternative. There's just stubborn people, the same ones who last generation refused to adapt to touch-tone phones, broadband, automatic gearboxes, digital synths, electric shavers, you name it. Welcome to being a Grumpy Old Man ;)
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Had an iPhone for a 8 months. Sold it, got a Blackberry Curve instead. The problem with the keyboard is not that it's unusable. I can type out words with it: usable. The problem is the lack of feedback, which leads me to pressing much harder than I need to, which leads to sore thumbs after more than just a few text messages. And I don't like that clicking noise either.
Re:iPhone Slider (Score:5, Funny)
"Had an iPhone for a 8 months ... The problem with the keyboard is ... [it] leads me to pressing much harder than I need to, which leads to sore thumbs after more than just a few text messages."
let me get this straight, you claim the problem with the iPhone is that 8 months was insufficient time for you to learn to stop pressing so hard that it causes you physical pain!?
I don't think Apple is to blame for you having less capacity for learning than a pet.
reductio: I have the same problem with silent desktop keyboards. there's no sound to let me know when to stop pressing so by the end of the day I'm just pounding my bloody fists through the table just to hear the click of my shattered bones rattling about.
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Re:iPhone Slider (Score:5, Funny)
So it was you [photobucket.com] all along!
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The lack of tactile feedback is actually as user interface issue. Humans do need tactile feedback as it is something that tells the mind to STOP pushing or doing something.
By saying, "oh this is not Apple's fault, but your own" is being a typical Apple drone where if it does not work then something is wrong with you. Guess what people Apple is not the end, just another solution.
BTW one of the reasons you need a keyboard is that a keyboard with its tactile feedback requires less accuracy than say a keyboard
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P.S. I use touch-tone phones, I have had broadband for over a decade, my car has automatic transmission, there is a digital synth in the room I'm in right now, and I haven't used a safety blade to shave my face for at least 20 years.
However, I still like tactile feedback so that I can push buttons without looking. That doesn't make me old and unadaptable, that just means I have a preference that a touch-screen device does not meet.
Oh, how user friendly! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Oh, how user friendly! (Score:5, Funny)
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I dunno, depending on the size, position, etc. I could see that being really easy...
Move finger/wheel up for higher digit, down for lower digit, one tap for "Next Digit" two taps for Dial, but it would work a lot better with a "real" wheel, like a mouse wheel where it has that resistance between each scroll/click.
You could dial, while the phone is already next to your ear, dial without even looking at it, dial while looking at the screen (instead of it being covered by your finger) etc.
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Re:Oh, how user friendly! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Oh, how user friendly! (Score:5, Funny)
You know, if you gave a rotary phone to an average teenager, they'd be unable to make calls.
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If you give a Windows Mobile phone to the average 50 year old, they'd be unable to do much of anything. Just saying.
-Taylor
Re:Oh, how user friendly! (Score:5, Funny)
If you give a Windows Mobile phone to the average 50 year old, they'd be unable to do much of anything. Just saying.
-Taylor
Yeah, but a hip 15 year old couldn't do anything with Windows Mobile, either.
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From what I see on the 'nano' version of the phone, from the description, why would anyone want one? Sounds just like a normal phone...not a smartphone, which is what makes the iPhone interesting. And smart phones can only get just so inexpensive....
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People really love this touch sensitive back idea. It seems like it would be a good contender for the worst UI ever. And seeing as how I can't think of a single successful device that uses that system....
Re:Oh, how user friendly! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Oh, how user friendly! (Score:4, Informative)
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Move along, nothing to see here (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Move along, nothing to see here (Score:5, Informative)
For those across the pond who haven't heard of the Daily Mail, they're pretty much our equivalent of Fox News. They'll publish any story if they think it'll sell papers, but they usually play on Joe Public's apparent dislike of immigrants, gays, people whose skin is too dark, etc.
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Re:Move along, nothing to see here (Score:5, Informative)
Fox news is quality journalism compared to the Daily Fail.
Think the National Enquirer with a racist agenda and you're getting somewhat close.
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Au contraire, mon frere (Score:5, Funny)
No. It will be a tiny, tiny, tiny one. One billionth the size of an iPhone. So small you will need a stylus the width of just a few carbon atoms in order to dial out.*
It is, after all, an iPhone nano.
*But that's ok, you can compensate for the tininess of your stylus by the smugness of owning the latest and greatest Apple offering.
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Dude, next time you shrink yourself, make sure you hold on to the iPhone when you make yourself big again. After all, that instruction manual^W^W iPhone is irreplaceable!
Now go put your red suit away.
So iPhone Shuffle is next? (Score:5, Funny)
No display, and dials random numbers.
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This wasn't even funny in January 07 when I heard it the first million times...
Re:So iPhone Shuffle is next? (Score:5, Funny)
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Screenless cellphones... (Score:2, Interesting)
...are a bad idea. [screenlessphone.com]
Re:Screenless cellphones... (Score:5, Informative)
Now I feel old. Until I was in junior high almost no phone had a screen. Including the luggable car phones.
Now a screenless phone is a novelty, and Slashdotters don't think it will work.
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It'll have a screen, but this is the most compact delivery of a truth I've seen around here in a while.
This might once have been possible (Score:4, Insightful)
Before Apple had announced the SDK, an iPhone Nano might have been a possibility. The mockups of an abbreviated Apple Touch interface floating around hint at the plausibility of getting the basics of the iPhone UI into a smaller package.
Post-SDK, however, there's no way that's going to happen. The varying hardware feature set (camera, microphone, etc.) between the iPhone and iPod Touch are already diverse enough to make software marketing a bit dicey, but I can't see Apple introducing a major new variation to the UI for smaller screens along with a whole new set of targeting constraints for developers.
Perhaps there is yet one way an iPhone Nano could exist: No App Store compatibility.
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Re:This might once have been possible (Score:5, Interesting)
The varying hardware feature set (camera, microphone, etc.) between the iPhone and iPod Touch are already diverse enough to make software marketing a bit dicey
If you poke around the API you will find that Apple has included ways to check the existence of various hardware capabilities (as well as network connectivity). Presumably they've already thought about devices that support different hardware profiles. For example, it is ill-advised to try and initialize the camera without first checking if it is available.
but I can't see Apple introducing a major new variation to the UI for smaller screens along with a whole new set of targeting constraints for developers.
Doubtful they will, but the same UI will work at different resolutions and screen sizes. I suspect the people who have hard-coded the screen width into their apps will be screwed at SOME point.
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Re:This might once have been possible (Score:5, Interesting)
One has to ponder the idea that the next IPod Touch might come with a camera and maybe a GPS.
Why not make your touch your camera as well. A camera on a media player isn't any dumber than on a cell phone.
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Skrew making it smaller (Score:2)
Re:Skrew making it smaller (Score:5, Funny)
What it really needs is a bottle opener...
Isn't Zima in screw-top bottles?
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Seriously, that is just fucked up man.
I wouldn't drink Zima if it was poured into my mouth off Lindsay Lohan's ass.
Wait, maybe I would.
Still ouch man.
If it looks like it, and smells like it ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Techcrunch reckons this is bullshit meant to drive traffic [techcrunch.com]. I'm inclined to agree.
I'm holding out... (Score:2)
for the iPhone Flea [gizmodo.com]
One song and 5 phone numbers - that's all I need.
Where's The News? (Score:2, Informative)
In Other News (Score:5, Funny)
The Daily Mail?! (Score:5, Informative)
Viral advertising posing as news (Score:5, Informative)
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Why, it could only be a touch with fewer features?
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