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Verizon Wireless To Buy Alltel For $28B
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timothy
on Thu Jun 05, 2008 03:59 PM
from the all-your-base-stations-that-is dept.
from the all-your-base-stations-that-is dept.
CWmike writes "Matt Hamblen reports that Verizon Wireless has officially announced an agreement to purchase Alltel for $28.1 billion, which would make the new company the largest wireless carrier in the U.S., with 80 million subscribers. The deal will undoubtedly provoke scrutiny by the Federal Communications Commission and the Department of Justice, they acknowledge. Who loses? 'This [deal] is another nail in the coffin for Sprint," said Michael Voellinger, an analyst at Telwares in Parsippany, N.J. 'Alltel is a highly valuable and strategic roaming partner to the top four providers, and this acquisition would put long-term pressure on pricing and terms of those arrangements.'"
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Obligatory (Score:5, Funny)
2. Hammer
3. Coffin
4. Profit!!!
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I've always had Sprint as my cell provider since I got my first phone about 10 years ago. I've been happy with their service, phone plans, and coverage.
I keep hearing nothing but horror stories about other carriers.....
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"Can you here me now?"
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Re:Obligatory (Score:5, Interesting)
Alltel bought Midwest Wireless. I can't get google calendar notifications (until very recently) anymore. Not so friendly. I was pondering leaving Alltel.
It's full circle, if Verizon buys Alltel, I'm back with Verizon.
Fuck it. Time to get an iPhone.
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Well now I've got FiOS and Verizon Wireless and so far have been happy. My expectations of horrifically screwed-up billing never did come true, so I can say that right now, at this moment, I'm a
Consumers? (Score:2)
Re:Consumers? (Score:5, Insightful)
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The bad: Verizon will definitely replace Alltel's stock firmwares on new phones with their own, locking out features and making them consumer-hostile.
Re:Consumers? (Score:4, Informative)
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Can you say "Monopoly" ? (Score:5, Insightful)
because this is it.
although im a capitalist, im increasingly starting to think that big corporations need a MAJOR whack on their butts so that competition can be a possibility again.
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I'm pretty happy with Verizon.
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Re:Can you say "Monopoly" ? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, its really annoying when people say "Monopoly" when the right term is "Oligopoly".
Even without Alltel being bought by Verizon, the four-firm concentration (combined marketshare of the top four firms) in the wireless market is over 80%.
What it certainly is not is a open, competitive market.
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That Alone... (Score:4, Insightful)
That alone should be more than sufficient to nix the deal. Anything that would upset the balance in the market this much should require more than stringent guarantees of access at current prices for the next century -- and not for the next 18 months as would be more likely proposed.
I love merger's (Score:3, Interesting)
Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope!
Re:I love merger's (Score:4, Insightful)
With the reduction of providers competing for your business from 2 to 1, do not expect your rates to be going down any time soon.
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Thank goodness (Score:5, Funny)
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Of course, but at least I wash my hands afterward.
Monopoly 2.0 (Score:2, Redundant)
Shouldn't there be some cap on the ratio of providence of a service or product to demand or something?
Obviously 80 million wireless subscribers is approaching a significant portion of the US population. And let's do the numbers on AT&T.
double-u tea eff question mark exclamation point.
Re:No, that is a dictionary definition (Score:3, Insightful)
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Verizon probably won't win the early termination fees [zentu.net] suit if it goes to the US Supreme Court, and it knows that, so it's doing the next most predatory thing it can.
The article in the OP stated: "The companies noted that Alltel is serving 57 mostly rural markets that Verizon Wireless does not serve." In other words, Verizon is buying out the rural markets, giving those people l
I Hope... (Score:2, Interesting)
obviously this isn't illegal (Score:3, Funny)
My Condolences (Score:2)
SPLIT (Score:2)
First of many (Score:5, Interesting)
Great, no more stupid commercials (Score:2)
Other then that, having a even larger company with more control over their customers so they can screw them more is all i see coming out of this.. Good thing i dont use a cell phone, or believe in them.
Alltel commercials (Score:3, Insightful)
I wonder what effect this will have on the Alltel commercials: The Verizon kid is the nastiest, most obnoxious of the lot.
</humor>
Customer backlash? (Score:5, Insightful)
Would customers be able to get out of their contacts when they merge?
Not sure if this is good for me or not (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, that was fun.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Some Insight: rural areas and future access (Score:3, Informative)
However, before we get to that, let me just say I think this is a good thing. I've managed several large cell accounts (500+ handsets) and I've had great experiences with Verizon - their business side is great. At least the reps I've dealt with. Conversely, the company I work for now has Alltel and I think they f*cking suck. For reference though, AT&T is the worst company I've ever deal with (500+ account). Then again, I've never dealt with Sprint. This is probably a regional thing, YMMV.
Anyway, our rep had some interesting news today. Now, Alltel services some VERY rural areas including this remote area of Montana that I live in. According to her, Alltel in Montana will never be operated as Verizon, it is impossible due to FCC regulation. After the sale is complete, Verizon will have to divest our market and any others acquired in which there was direct competition (A & B side carrier designation).... to yet another carrier. This will be a good chunk of real estate so the expectation is that it will be to another major player.
So what does that mean? Verizon is going to suck up a lot of urban areas and urban customers and rural customers are likely to get shafted. Shafted meaning they will be transferred to odd little local carriers (yes - they still exist), such as Chinook. Why? Because Sprint still hasn't built out their PCS network in lots of rural areas. AT&T's GSM still has poor coverage in many areas too compared to Verizon & Alltel's older CDMA technology. Also, rural areas are very expensive to install infrastructure in, especially if you're dealing with mountains.
My recommendation for anyone maintaining a large cell account: stop buy equipment and renewing contracts. This deal will likely take 6 months for acquisition, and then a year for assimilation. That means, get your existing contracts as close to expiration as you can so that you're not incurring costs to break your contract. Right now breaking an Alltel contract is approximately $175
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Sprint, unfortunately, has neither of those advantages.
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I guess I can hope the FCC says "no" to this deal...
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*BlackBerry Internet Service
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Lord knows we've already got too much competition in the telecom space, right?
Pretty soon we'll have two airlines, two telecoms, two oil companies, two pharmas and two entertainment conglomerates. Oh, and two companies that own all the newspapers, TV networks, etc and those will be two of the companies from the list above. Two companies that make airplanes in the US (or is it down to one now?). Two banks, of course, and they will also be the only two brokerages.
What the fuck is our
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We've got two political parties.
Both of them money from the two telecoms, two oil companies, two pharmas, two entertainment conglomerates and the two "news" companies.
What do you think?
Oh, and the two airline companies are too busy losing too much money to do much of anything else.
Re:Great...Ordering of Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:yeah.. but.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Sprint == CDMA phones & network, running J2ME
Result: disaster
Verizon == CDMA phones & network, running BREW
Alltel == CDMA phones and network, running BREW
Result: probably much better
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Re:yeah.. but.. (Score:5, Interesting)
NexTel started out as fleet dispatch frequencies and moved into the cell phone range. NexTel has always been an excellent niche between 2 way radios and full blown cell phones.
Our factories have numerous repeaters in them so that we have full coverage in the building. Push to Talk is used constantly. It seems to be the same for all other friends of mine that work in the manufacturing world. AT&T, Verizon are great for upper management and executives but anyone that might get grease on their hands uses a NexTel
J2ME, BREW is all junk for our work. Most of our phones show 4 lines of black on green. They'll all survive a drop from a second story building, being plunged under water and being left in dash in the sun. The batteries also last twice as long as any 'consumer' cell phone I've used.
NexTel definitely has something to bring to the table.
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While I've never used them AllTel has seemed to drive a bit of competition. First they had the "5 friends" thing then it seems everyone had that. Now they're up to "Any friend on any network" which other people seem to be copying.
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Re:yeah.. but.. (Score:4, Interesting)
However, having a $22 Billion debt is not good for Alltel customers, either. They may have "America's largest network" but they don't exactly have America's largest customer base, (The article I read this morning had them at about 15% and 20% of the Verizon and AT&T customer base, respectively) and in order to continue providing to its customers, the company needs some relief.
Is this a good thing? Maybe. I'd like to think the two networks will operate under a large umbrella and Verizon and Alltel might remain as independent as possible, just provide a more complete network coverage.
Is this a bad thing? Maybe. Alltel customers may be turned off if sudden phone lockdowns come out of this.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re:Come and get your love! FOOLISH (Score:2)
You're foolish enough to think that a VZ and AT merger will benefit you as gaining the feature set of VZ + AT = both of you.
Expect more likely, both of you = - (VZ + AT).
Re:Come and get your love! (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:appeals process (Score:3, Insightful)
By the way, one of the main reasons XM/Sirius was likely approved was because they both lose craptons (that's the technical term) of money. If the choice is zero providers of a service, or one, we prefer taking the one. The other reason it can/has/will be approved is that