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Inside the TRS-80 Model 100
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on Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:13 PM
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enalbro writes "What wouldn't you give for a laptop that starts instantly, weighs 3 pounds and gets 20 hours of battery life? That's the TRS-80 Model 100 in a nutshell. Granted, it displays only 8 lines of text and has just 28 kilobytes of memory, but it's a classic, the first truly popular portable in the U.S. At PC World we have a teardown that'll show you the guts of this featherweight champ." And, like many of the best things in life, it's powered by AA batteries (as is the Apple eMate).
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Eh (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Eh (Score:5, Funny)
For instance... did you know...
These computers, as well as the TRS-80 CoCos and the Model I, III, and IV units... the units that saved programs to cassette, have greater wireless capabilities than our current hardware. All it takes is to plug in the input and output that are supposed to go to the cassette recorder, and patch it into a HAM radio. It's already being done. People are sending programs and information half-way around the world, without wires and without the assistance of satellites.
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Maybe, but the form factor of the machine is perfect for a lot of uses. I wonder how difficult it would be to develop a new motherboard, based on modern components. If you could put together an ultra-low-power ARM CPU, 128 meg, or so, of memory, and a CompactFlash slot for storage, you could run Linux on it. Replace the 25-pin serial port and the printer port with 9-pin serial and USB ports, replace the phone port with an actual modem jack, replace the bar code rea
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Re:Eh (Score:5, Funny)
That was back when people would see your email address on your business card and say "what's that?". And when you told them, they'd say "oh you nerds can talk to each other, how cute". Those people are now getting phished by hackers, so it's all good.
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Re:Eh (Score:5, Informative)
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/1816257&tid=107 [slashdot.org]
This is also why I pay no attention to the slashdot mob's opinions or predictions.
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Bought two used ones a long time back (Score:5, Informative)
Had a nice little BASIC and lots of cool ports. Trivia: the OS was the last major coding work by Bill Gates himself.
Re:Bought two used ones a long time back (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Bought two used ones a long time back (Score:4, Interesting)
A few years later, I velcroed it to a pull-out rack shelf and hooked a null modem cable to it to monitor the console output of a SSL Screen Sound setup (proprietary pro-audio digital mixer/editor in the days before Pro-tools). It couldn't quite keep up with the 9600 baud stream if there was a lot of data streaming fast like during bootup. It did the trick, however, when you just needed to go in and check some of the statuses while the system was running. I think I mostly used it to go in and low-level format the hard drives on occasion.
It was useful for a while, and that must have been somewhere in the mid-90s that I used it.
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Re:Bought two used ones a long time back (Score:5, Funny)
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Yep. Witness these 'screenshots':
Jan 12, 1908 Tue 14:03:54 (C)Microsoft
BASIC TEXT TELCOM ADDRSS
SCHEDL MYFILE.DO -.- -.-
Select: _ 24121 Bytes free
(edited for slashdot's junk characters filter)
BASIC was highlighted. Press Enter:
Jan 12, 1908 Tue 14:03:54 (C)Microsoft
WARNING!
You are about to run BASIC. This
softwar
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The best part about the TRS-80 Model 100... (Score:5, Interesting)
keyboards (Score:3, Insightful)
celibacy required? (Score:5, Funny)
Bad news for virgins, huh?
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Noise and Braces (Score:3, Informative)
Re:keyboards (Score:4, Funny)
I sense a great disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of Model M users cried out in rage, and then continued typing.
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(Granted, it's an EnduraPro 104, and the construction isn't nearly as heavy duty as an IBM Model M, but it does say Model M on the bottom, and has buckling springs.
Love it! (Score:4, Interesting)
Came across one in the hallway of a university I sometimes work at; it had been left for the janitors to take away so I snagged it for my son. He's almost two, and has fun banging away on it...any time he starts making his way toward my laptop, or my wife's, we just say, "Hey, where's your laptop these days?"
Only problem is, my wife has an iBook, and once he notices that his laptop isn't nearly as shiny as hers we're doomed. Lucky thing I'm a Linux sysadmin...I can just point to an xterm once he starts wondering about the difference between his laptop and ours. :-)
Re:Love it! (Score:4, Funny)
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I still have mine (Score:5, Interesting)
Instant boot. Sunlight readable display. Full travel keyboard, full size keys. Ctrl key in the correct place. No screen joints to wear out.
20 hours, on 4 AA batteries. No proprietary battery.
External storage is an audio cassette. I think it uses the modem to generate the sounds for the cassette, but I could be wrong.
The OS does have a few bugs, where if a program does something bad (not using PEEK and POKE, but pure basic), or is too big to tokenize, it crashes and erases all memory. That makes writing big programs very exciting.
The OS also isn't Y2K compatible, with this year being "1908".
Re:I still have mine (Score:4, Insightful)
>20 hours, on 4 AA batteries. No proprietary battery.
Do not underestimate the impact of this, on its popularity.
One big reason the Model 100 was so popular among journalists was
the extremely good (even for now) battery life, together with the
fact that the AA battery is something that you'd be able to get in
even some very remote places.
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Gates coding "skills" strike again... (Score:5, Funny)
"the Model 100 served as the portable computing workhorse of its day. Bill Gates' also ranks it as one of his favorite computers of all time, in large part because he and a friend wrote the firmware it uses."
And then on the 4th page:
"Peeking in from the left is the reset button, which the user needs from time to time due to a few pesky bugs in the ROM code, reminding us that even non-Windows systems can crash."
Come on then. It's funny.
what? no white model? (Score:3, Funny)
I still use mine (Score:5, Interesting)
I use them to take minutes at meetings. I used to have a PC laptop but since all I used it for was to take minutes, I gave it to my brother who actually needed it. The Model 100 performs minute-taking just fine. Also I can touch type on it better than on a newer laptop keyboard.
The Model 100 was a MAINSTAY of journalists at the time; since it ran for many hours on AA batteries which you could get anywhere, even in small towns in foreign countries, and it had a built-in modem and a very portable acoustic coupler that would work with any phone you could find. I bet the majority of remote print reporting for several years was typed in the field on a Model 100.
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Not a laptop (Score:3, Insightful)
What wouldn't you give for a laptop that starts instantly, weighs 3 pounds and gets 20 hours of battery life?
I'd give a lot for that, but this wasn't it. This is more accurately described as a PDA that fits on your lap. What it did, it did well (for the time), but it was very limited. And modern PDAs get a lot more than 20 hours of battery life.
In other words, if you want a modern Model 100, get a PDA with one of those fold-up keyboards and go to town. Instant-on, long battery life, and destroys the Model 100 in usefulness.
If you write for a living (Score:4, Interesting)
... the Model 100 is kinda the definition of the perfect portable:
Sure, it doesn't have the bells and whistles the kids are into like "color" or "graphics", but in a portable for writers none of that is really important -- which is why many journalists held on to their Model 100s long after they became ludicrously obsolete.
With the demise of products like the Psion Series 5 [wikipedia.org] (another writer's portable), the niche that the Model 100 pioneered has basically been abandoned; the only thing close to it today is the EEE PC, which would be an ideal spiritual successor to the hardy 100 if the keyboard wasn't so danged small...
Tandy/Sharp PC-2 (Score:3, Interesting)
Contains Last Code Written By bill Gates (Score:3, Informative)
I learned to program (Score:4, Interesting)
What this article really failed to mention was the software side. You could program anything on the computer in BASIC and the LCD screen made it easy to create and position graphics (no need to worry about resolution - each pixel is always in exactly the same place and precisely the same number characters will always fit on the screen.) Made for years of writing games and applications on that thing. This is really something the "laptops for kids" people should be thinking about.
The BOFH was originally written on one of these... (Score:3, Interesting)
http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard8.html [ntk.net]
The Cambridge Z88 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:GK Chesterton (Score:4, Insightful)
But muscle isn't everything? Lalalala, I can't hear you.
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there is always going to be a place for hulking, massive systems -- however, we should try and make them as power efficient as possible.
Re:GK Chesterton (Score:5, Interesting)
What's interesting to me is the tension this sets up with operating systems like Vista which are moving in the opposite direction.
Just when the ultimate in MS bloatware comes out, suddenly a new (again) market appears for ultra-portable general-purpose PCs that can't run Vista.
So we have WinXP on the OLPC XO-1 and Asus EEE PC, etc., because Vista's too big and WinCE is too small. XP or linux+xfce are juuust right.
Personally I *want* my desktop to handle speech recognition and swooshy graphics if it has the beef. And I want my portable to have a huge battery life AND a general-purpose OS.
So I think this OS bloat bifurcation should continue.
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Those are by far the best laptop keyboards I've ever typed on, and I greatly prefer them to most rubber dome keyboards. (However, I prefer a good buckling spring keyboard.)
Re:eMate was NOT powered by AAs (Score:4, Informative)
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I just disassembled the battery pack, and put brand-new AA NiMH batteries in there. Now, it gets a LOT longer life than it used to. The NiMH still self-discharges, though. I should have waited another year for Eneloop batteries to be invented.
Re:Still have one. (Score:4, Informative)
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Looks interesting. But it does have a few obvious downsides after a few minutes of looking.
1. It is bigger on two dimensions and about the same 2" depth vs a Model 100. After two decades I'd have expected a little improvement.
2. The keyboard LOOKS like the weak link, your statement that this actually IS a problem just confirms that the most important attribute of the Model 100, the wonderful keyboard, isn't replicated here.
3. No indication of battery life i
Re:Why not standardize batteries for mobile device (Score:3, Insightful)
But that would mean numerous companies could make the one battery type that covers numerous laptops, thus increasing competition and lowering price. Sadly, that means your favorite PC mfg couldn't gouge you for replacement batteries.
And that's why it won't happen.